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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Their methodology involves asking people a bunch of questions and then if they don't get 100% correct they're counted as believing misinformation. Putting aside the unreliability of online polls, that's a pretty misleading way of framing it, if you ask me.

If you asked people 10 questions about just about anything, you'd probably find a substantial number of people who don't get every one right. In fact, they did do this under the heading, "Disinformation Nation: Americans Widely Believe False Claims on a Range of Topics." That's probably why they found that, "Respondents identifying as Democrats were about as likely (82 percent) to believe at least one of the 10 false claims as those identifying as Republicans (81 percent)."

Many of the people responding to the poll may not have ever encountered the claims they were asked about. If you are first encountering a claim in that context, you pretty much just have to guess whether you think it's true based on vibes. And you can easily set up misleading vibes, like, "Conservative initiative Project 2025 proposes cutting or eliminating Social Security" which is false because it's not explicitly stated, but it does explicitly state a whole bunch of other horrible shit, so like, if you get got by that one it doesn't really show that you believe in an inaccurate picture of the world, just that you got tripped up by details. But that claim dings you for "believing misinformation" just as much as " COVID-19 vaccines killed 15 million people worldwide."

So like it doesn't really tell us very much about how far reaching disinformation really is, the results are more of a reflection of their methodology.

[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't 1/3 of Americans believe the world is 6000 years old? Earth is flat? and other nonsense? Why wouldn't they believe misinformation/propaganda, Russian or otherwise?

[–] BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

It's the same damn 30% too.

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 46 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That was my thought... approx 1/3 also voted for the chonk-in-charge. What a strange Coincidence. /s

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

1/3 believes in disinformation(conservatives magats), the other 1/3 are apathetic or is ignorant, and the actual 1/3 are aware of it. so basically 2/3 falls for the DIS/misinformation.

[–] drekloge@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago

Self-identified dems/independant still believed some disinformation. You are not immune to propaganda.

[–] Haess@lemmynsfw.com 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They have for over a decade, unfortunately.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

You’re not counting the talk radio years?

That cancer spread super-fast. I watched a friend go down in mere months.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 19 points 2 days ago

Guess which third

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I'm surprised it's only 1/3rd. Americans are extremely stupid.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Is the Venn diagram of these people and the qons a single circle?

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

So about the same that voted for Trump. Makes sense.

Fortunately thats the minority. Remember that.

[–] valkyrieangela@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We aren't talking about a 10% minority, or 20%, this is a whopping 30%. That is absolutely unprecedented and essentially irrecoverable, especially in the context of an ideologue.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 1 day ago

I dont think thats unprecidented at all. The political right has always been at least 30% in the US.

I wonder what percent of people approved of Hitler and other fascists. 30% sounds about right, before they started mass killing (causing the numbers to go up)

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They believe something because they want to

What they believe or disbelieve is nothing more than a matter of convenience

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Right you are, FistingEnthusiast

[–] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And unfortunately they showed up to vote.

They never sit one out, because in their mind "calling a man a woman" and living next to someone that is only guilty of not filing immigration paperwork is apparently how we turn into a failing nation.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

one third of Americans are stupid.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I feel it’s closer to half, so maybe one third are just really, really stupid.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Its just your standard bell curve. With the majority of us being in the average range.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yes, we know that, now how to go about getting these god damn troglodytes to start using critical thinking without offending their delicate sensibilities.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 6 points 2 days ago

Trump administration: Time to boost those numbers! Do your thing little Marco! "Twitter files 2.0 coming up! We're getting rid of the disinformation task force because they CeNsOrEd CoNsErVaTiVeS!"

🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮

[–] Punchshark@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

Hmmmm, the country that has killed of education is full of stupid people. Big surprise!