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[–] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 62 points 1 day ago

Welcome to American politics, when the 2028 election begins in 2024 and the 2028 primary began in 2020.

I'm so tired.

[–] computerscientistII@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago (15 children)

Is this wise? As an outside observer I had the impression that Harris lost in part because of systematic, subtle and overt racism and sexism. All this applies to AOC, too. Do the Democrats want to lose? Don't they have some sort of JFK look-alike, people actually want to vote? It's not as if appearance wasn't way more important in the US than things like the actual political agenda.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

A lot of people said what you're saying. There is some percent of the population that was not going to vote for a woman. But I think more importantly is the problem that she had really weak views. Her positions were and are anti-worker in many obvious ways. She's not taking giant steps to rain in corporate corruption, and she never will.

If you want to try to pick someone is white, male, and not at all offensive in any way, I don't really like your chances at winning, but even if you could it wouldn't be someone worth supporting because they wouldn't actually make our lives better.

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[–] klay@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

honest question: I am out of the loop. Why the sudden hate against kamala harris? I come from a country without a two party system, so we criticize everybody all the time.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

I come from a country without a two party system, so we criticize everybody all the time.

I come from a country with a two party system and I criticize everyone all the time for allowing the two party system to exist.

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[–] ToiletFlushShowerScream@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Defeatists ignoring the number of people attending her rallies recently.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago

"We can't run a woman, America doesn't want one as president!"

"Here's AOC having some of the biggest rallies in recorded American history, showing people are wanting to follow her lead."

"...Well she's also brown, so clearly no one wants to follow her for that too."

I wonder why they don't want AOC to run as a popular front runner, but have Harris have a second chance at losing again...

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 185 points 2 days ago (24 children)

The fact that Kamala is even going to try to run again shows how fucked that party is.

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[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 83 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

Second place to Harris??? Holy fuck we deserve our fate.

Edit: upon reading the article (I know...) AOC has the best net favorability. So a little more hopium there.

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[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 78 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Jfc here we fuckin go again. Lemme guess DNC, this will totally be an open primary right? Anyone can win?

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[–] pablodaniel@lemmings.world 0 points 17 hours ago

Why do democrats keep voting for losers?

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (53 children)

yeah, zero interest in supporting kamala "keep arming isreal" fucking harris again.

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[–] vvilld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We're 2.5-3 years away from the primary race even starting, and 3+ years away from the convention. This poll means absolutely nothing at this point.

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[–] Spazz@lemmynsfw.com 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (32 children)
  1. Stop with this shit. It's 2025. This is stupid.

  2. Women can't be president in America. We have a shitty culture that prevents that from happening. We keep trying, we keep failing. If you want to win, find another candidate with a dick. That's a requirement in America. Not saying I like it. Just saying that's reality.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

Women can’t be president in America.

A Catholic can't be president in America. Until one was.

A Black man can't be president in America. Until one was.

Not saying I like it. Just saying that’s reality.

No, just precedent. Nothing you say is like the laws of physics, more a rule of thumb.

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Women can’t be president in America. We have a shitty culture that prevents that from happening. We keep trying, we keep failing.

Tried twice with two exceptionally shitty candidates. Blaming Hillary and Harris's losses on their sex is a massive cop-out. Trump should have been destroyed in every election he ran in, but the only time he lost was with the weight of a worldwide pandemic working against him, and then, he wasn't exactly blown out of the water.

A woman can definitely be president in America. But as long as people like you blame the losses on that, the actual reasons these candidates are losing will never be fixed.

It's time to take some accountability.

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[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Harris was less than 2% behind, and Clinton was ahead in the popular vote. I don't think gender was not a factor, but I also don't think it was a major one.

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