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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 66 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Explanation: While use of coffee beans originated in Ethiopia, it was the Arabs of the 15th century AD who discovered that it could be brewed into a drink. While I'm not a coffee drinker myself, both an appreciation for the historical importance of the drink and the fantastic smell makes me thankful for the discovery as well! Truly the world's first step into modernity πŸ™

[–] Mr_Fish@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What was the use before the Arabs?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Chewing the beans, I believe.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

just like coca leaves in South America, coca tea came later, and eventually coca cola

[–] HowAbt2morrow@futurology.today 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Twoafros@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What's your source. Ethiopians will tell you up and down that they discovered and brewed coffee first

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Twoafros@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This article says that both Ethiopia and Yemen claim to have discovered coffee. The Ethiopian claim is that it was discovered and brewed in Ethiopia and the Yemeni claim is that Ethiopians discovered but Yemenis brewed it. I like the Ethiopian story better but it either have no conclusive evidence

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I tend to believe the Yemeni version because of the earlier evidence, but you're correct that neither origin is definite, and history probably will never be fully certain on the matter.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 39 points 2 weeks ago

To be fair: caffeine is toxic to insects. It's not that we enjoy the intended effect like in hot chilies. It's that the effect differs between insects and mammals

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (29 children)

Man I hate coffee. Tastes like ash in water.

I have high sensitivity towards some tastes. Beer is also not palatable for me.

[–] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not sure why you're being down voted.

Personally I love the taste of coffee, but I can see how high "tastitivity" could make it unpleasant.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Not sure why you're being down voted.

People take it personally maybe πŸ˜†πŸ’”

But yeah, coffee definitely feels like a love it or hate it kind of beverage.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It sounds like you have had a bunch of dark roasts. Maybe try a light roast and see if it tastes the same?

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

It doesn't taste the same, nor smell the same, but it all tastes bad. For me, it's like asking me to try different brands of cigarettes. I'll still cough no matter the subtle or big differences.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I hear what your saying. But I enjoy coffee. But if you have tried different types it might not be for you.

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[–] oppy1984@lemm.ee 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Same here. When people ask me why I don't drink coffee I have to explain to them that to me it tastes like a bars ashtray smells at the end of a busy night. The funny thing is everyone in my family loves coffee, I'm just the black sheep that drinks tea.

"Oh you just haven't had good coffee" nope sorry bud, I've had high end coffee, low end coffee, flavored coffee, everything. I even had a supervisor who basically lived on coffee and did everything he could to find a blend that was palatable to me, still nothing.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Exactly. Many who like coffee just can't imagine how someone can just not even learn to love it, no matter how hard they try.

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[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Coffee is the same for me. Beer used to be the same, but I got used to it - still doesn't taste great, but cold it's acceptable. But not coffee, I never got used to it.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

That's the thing, I have no interest in subjecting myself to things until they are acceptable lol. I like eating and drinking things that are inherently good to begin with. Things that are good for me, and to me. πŸ˜…

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Very understandable! I've also stopped drinking beer, because it never started tasting good.

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[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

A lot of people think coffee has one taste. It does not. It isn't all that burnt to hell flavor like you get from Starbucks or most other places. A nice light roast will be more fruity. If you get the chance, I'd recommend trying a naturally processed coffee, which is where the seed is left in the fruit while it ferments and is then removed, so it gets a lot more of the fruit flavors.

I'd also say the same thing for beer, but even more so. Beer is like soup. There's so many different ways to make it with different ingredients. Budweiser, or similar, is what most people try, and it's shit. There's a massive world of beer though, with things like sours that can taste like wine, fruit juice, or candy, to stouts that can have coffee or chocolate notes, and so much more.

You have to have an open mind and explore. There may not be coffee you like (the number of flavors is broad, but still more limited), but I can promise you I could find beer you like. My mom used to say she hates beer, but I've found a good number that she enjoys because there isn't just one flavor.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Thanks, people have been offering me fine beer and coffee my whole life since puberty hit. Everything tastes like shit to me, I'm sorry. Some people just don't like coffee or beer. πŸ‘ And I'm perfectly happy not to need to drink them both. There's plenty of other things to enjoy. Like tea. Fruit juices. A gin and tonic perhaps. A mild non-alcoholic ginger beer.

But coffee can go sit in a corner.

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[–] Chadus_Maximus@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You can't just say all that and not name any brands. Sure do I start?

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

You start local. I can't help you with that unless you live near me.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't care for the taste, but the smell is truly fantastic.

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[–] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Like ash? That's wild. My partner also doesn't like the taste, though she does like the smell. I wonder if there's some genetic stuff at play, since I don't know how else it could taste anything like ash.

[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

huh, i also think it tastes like ash...

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

"Burnt water" is how I described the taste to my coffee-loving grandparents after numerous (and enthusiastic! I wanted to like it) attempts to find coffee I liked.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I do think there might be. I think it's called hyper tasters or something.

[–] cod@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Funny, after water, beer and coffee are my two most consumed drinks. I like whisky too but haven’t been drinking as much lately. It kind of comes and goes.

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[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The Arabic dark roast beans are like used barbecue charcoal, but South American beans in a light roast are more like hazelnut black tea. There's a massive difference.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

No thanks on every single coffee type you can think of. πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nah it was Ethiopians who realized it. Arabs agreed. Then Europeans lost their damn minds at the concept of a non alcoholic social beverage, much less one with an energizing effect

[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago

Going from drunk to energized to inventing calculus, optics, a working theory of gravity and orbital mechanics in one lifetime

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago

you're welcome. 😊

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