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as much as i wouldnt want to see just ai art with no further human work/edit/something. i dont think its actually possible to police ai art without banning human work that might look similar. as much i understand the sentiment of others on ai art, its a slippery slope to have 'tells' of an ai art vs human. wont go too in-depth but i sometimes make art that's intentionally smudgy and weird, idk if people would mistake those for ai art but i can see it being possible.

ai art without further human work i think should be removed. but i dont think it should be removed if its not clear it was ai. maybe a rule that if u do post ai u must at least say its that in the description. ofcourse this isnt gonna make everyone who posts ai to do that, but faith in people first should be the best start. if it isnt clarified on ai but many are saying, moderators could ask and have a policy if the creator doesnt clarify after being asked then it could be removed or locked at least.

i would also like to give opinion on comments. that post did have ai defenders and those should be removed, especially if they are being intentionally hateful. but i am also not really cool with tolerance on those who were being hateful on ai users as well, especially when the post was unproven. i do want to say there should be a discussion on whether such comments should be kept as is as well. im not here to defend ai, but i dont think being actively hostile towards a suspected ai thing is a good thing. it goes back to the slipperly slope, if i make some art that i have been doing before gen_ai was a thing, making intentionally weird smudged up things, and im being harassed for suspected ai, i wouldnt post again (to be clear i have not had this experience and i havent posted my weird art, i might someday; im giving an example that has happened in the art community over and over for people i know, i dont want this place to be unsafe similar to that. we have to keep in mind that tells and stuff is very much gonna hurt human creators more than it can hurt the corporate empire of gen_ai).

this is all not to mention that i think gen_ai users are significantly smaller scapegoats of a problem then are corporations making, funding, implementing, and buying gen_ai stuff. and i feel harassment of gen_ai users is pointless, maybe more fruitful to spread awareness of its harm as many non tech people i know dont know the issues until told. u can call them ignorant at most sure, but harassment just gonna lead them to continue ignoring. though thats a much more different issue, im highlighting as an opinion here to explain my thinking of why i dont want harassment or hateful things in the comments. especially generalized one that might hurt human creators far more

I think a lot of us mods feel that AI should be allowed so long as it is not low quality and serves some purpose

Pretty much sums up my view of it. It's a shame it's vilified since it's good at making short comics and memes. I'd also rather original ai content then reposts personally.

I can understand certain subs being against it, like traditional art subs and subs relating to shows where movie stills are preferred (the star trek ones for instance). But in the end, this is a meme sub.

That being said, it's seriously polarizing and every post with even a hint of AI turns into a fight. Tagging is at least a small compromise but I don't think it will do much without filtering. Maybe an option would be to ask users who wish to post AI content to use an alt classified as a bot, so users can filter it that way while we wait for a proper flair system.

oki, here's my stanc

~(gen-pics~ ~mean~ ~ai~ ~images~ ~here)~

• i wud enjoy gen-pic ban

• bt its almost impossibl cuz gen-pics r supr gud now n hard to tell if fake
• new image gen is not prompt -> result anymor - but mor lik an LLM puts together multipl elements n iterativli improves images, lik specificlli addin text to onli smol bit--- "source" here
  • this makes it evn hardr to tell if imag is gen pic... which i thinksies is bad
• mayb we employ som gen pic detector if we're unsure? seems lik best option, cuz evn i, who kindsa knows how stuffsies wrork, cnt tell anymor ;(
• bannin gen pics alsuu removs funi shrek stealin from white house found footag... which... im oki with- bt its kindsa a loss kindsa

so yis, im for gen pic ban n alsuu wan to hav detection tools if were unsur - if u wan ai 196 head ovr to lmmi wrorld i feel...

alsuu - if gen pics wud be fulli allowd - id hav to go outta my way to hide evri singl one when i see one... which i dun lik ;(

a gud way to think bout it is dis:

• when i read text n go "oh... dis is llm genratd" i immediatli stop readin
• samsies for gen pics

Any and All Abominable Intelligence should be boo'd and shamed >:(

I think AI art should be allowed. It doesn't matter if a shitpost is AI or not, and witch hunting should always be punished. There are too many people out there harassing and hurting people online. Their behavior should be discouraged.

Edit: It should be allowed just for the reason that people don't need the excuse to act out. I can't state an opinion without them feeling like they need to downvote to punish me.

I think the strongest argument against a blanket ban is creators like Obscurest Vinyl who clearly have actual talent and vision that lets them put out 100% ai generated art that is actually art. It seems to me that it's harder to make AI images that are actual art, and I'm personally okay with a flat-out ban on AI-generated images, but this also cuts out stuff like ai-generated Pixar movie posters or security footage of Yoda robbing a gas station.

As for false bans, thats why ban appeals exist.