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  • Volkswagen beat Tesla in European EV sales across the first three months of 2025, data shows.
  • Registrations for VW EVs are up more than 150%, while Tesla lost huge ground.
  • However, the Model Y and Model 3 remain Europe's top two most-registered EVs.
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[–] oliver@lemmy.skumring.com 3 points 6 days ago

Now they could deal with their quality management in terms of software as a next, huge leap.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 87 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

In fact it's even more crazy if you consider VW group:

Tesla Total 53,237

VW Group:
VW 65,679
Audi 34,739
Skoda 26,578
Cupra (SEAT) 18,878
Porsche 9,929

VW Group total 155,803

ratio 155803/53237 = 2.93
VW group has almost 3 times higher sales than Tesal!!

https://www.carscoops.com/2025/04/vw-finally-beats-tesla-outselling-it-in-q1-ev-sales-in-europe/

PS:
Stellantis:
Peugeot 24,397
Citroen 16,367
Opel 13,612
FIAT 6,825
Stellantis Total 61,201

Stellantis manages to clearly beat Tesla too!!

Edit: I forgot FIAT in the Stellantis numbers.

[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago
[–] frankgrimeszz@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Watch out for BYD from China.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 week ago (35 children)

Freaking hell Lemmy has a huge hard on for BYD.

[–] dickalan@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It’s not just Lemmy. Also Reddit

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

I don't go there anymore so I don't know 🤷

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 week ago

I've seen some videos on them. They look pretty nice but I worry about how they hold up and the build quality, as I would any relatively unestablished brand.

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[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

It’s more expensive. Like the byd Tang is like 150% the price of a vw id4

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 14 points 1 week ago (10 children)

We have them, but people don't seem to be too eager to buy.

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[–] MudMan@fedia.io 22 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Tesla was the top EV seller in Europe? I'm surprised.

I'm guessing the top electric-only vehicle excluding hybrids and plug-in hybrids? In the two or three European countries I visit often you definitely see more of those, at least anecdotally. But maybe London City techbros and finance bros outweight everybody else? That seems plausible.

I have to say, I find all of these reports and investor analyses on Tesla's PR woes way too optimistic about how well they'll recover if and when Musk "steps away from the government". I really don't think that genie is going back in the bottle, guys.

[–] troed@fedia.io 25 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Don't know about "London City techbros and finance bros" but in Sweden and Norway we prefer pure EV over hybrids.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

Tesla was the top EV seller in Europe? I’m surprised.

Not only that, A few years ago, Tesla was as big as all the rest combined!

I’m guessing the top electric-only vehicle excluding hybrids and plug-in hybrids?

That's how it should be, but in most cases it's not. 100% battery is called BEV now. But BEV sales have far surpassed plugin Hybrid (PHEV).

IMO a Hybrid plugin or not is NOT electric just as it is NOT an ICE, it's a hybrid of the 2! But Hybrids are generally counted as EV.

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[–] Ziggurat@fedia.io 15 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Tesla understood that Batteries are expensive so let's make a fancy car so customer are OK to pay for the batteries main brand either didn't have an EV or tried to make a cheap electric car, cutting down the autonomy (e.g. the Renault Zoe). Add the whole We're a progressive company, so we give Tesla rather than diesel mercedes to our executive and Tesla was the main player on the niche market for a decade.

However, as electric car stop being a Niche, every brand has now several electrical models, from a affordable urban one_ to a comfortable and fancy one, If you can afford a Mercedes, Tesla is still an option (but then there is Musk personality not helping) but if you ain't rich, you can go to Volkswagen or Renault depending on how broke you are

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[–] Clanket@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (5 children)

On my second ID4, and the wife has our first ID3. Lovely cars to drive, will never go back to an ice car again.

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[–] fireweed@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Somewhat amazed they've rebounded this much given the VW emission scandal some years back. Guess it wasn't that brand-damaging after all.

[–] Robbity@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

Barely made a dent commercially, but put the company in a difficult financial situation where build quality was a bit lower and cars a bit more expensive for a while.

The point of these punishments should never be to kill a company, but to hurt investors, who are ultimately responsible for setting the CEOs agenda.

And, well, VW stock is still down about -80% compared to pre-dieselgate. So I would say eurocapitalism working as intended.

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