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I go to a programming school, where there were computers running ancient windows 8 and some were on windows 10, they ran really slow and were completely unrelaible when doing the tasks that are required, those computers in question had either i5-4750 (I think?) or i7-4970 so running windows 10 with all its bloat was not going to be an easy task for em, so long story short I decided to talk to the principal about it explaining why linux is so much better than windows and gave him reasons why linux will be better for us for education and he agreed after considering it for a bit, he let me know that some students play roblox or minecraft in middle of the lesson and he asks if linux would stop em from doing that, I stated that as long as they dont know how to work with wine/lutris or know any specific linux packages that run windows games on linux they should not be able to play in the middle of lessons. he gave me the green light to do it, so I spent like 3 days migrating like 20+ computers to linux (since I had to set them up and install some required applications for them) in the last day where I was doing a last check up on the PCs to make sure they are in working order, there was a computer having a problem of which where it didnt boot, I let the principal know about this to get permission to work on it, he said yes, so after some troubleshooting I realized the boot order was all screwed, so since Ive worked with arch before I knew how to fix it, I booted up linux mint live image, chrooted, and fixed the boot order and computer went back to life, prinicipal came in checked on everything to make sure everything works, told me to wait for a bit, and then came back and paid me for his troubles (was a bit of a surprised since I expected nothing of the sort), the next day I came to school, sat down, turned PC on, noticed something was in the trash bin, opened it, found "robloxinstall.exe" on it, told the principal about it, he was pleased with it, so now 2 weeks later he seems now to be confident about linux, as he told me there is another class he is considering to move to linux.

so my question here would be: does this mean linux now is ready for the education sector?

(considering now, that I got a win win situation, I get to use an OS that I like in school, students gets to focus on the lessons instead of slacking.)

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[–] thirstyhyena@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Next step is to teach the students WINE. ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ

[–] Ace120C@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 month ago

I'll let them figure that out themselves xddd

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[–] debil@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Great job! Now it's a good time to learn a bit of Ansible so you can keep your fleet up-to-date and configured. It would also come in handy in case you get a permit to do more conversions in the future.

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[–] Bluefruit@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Is linux ready for the education sector? Kinda depends on the tools involved.

If its a google classroom kind of workflow and or everything is done in the browser, absolutely. Theres a reason Chromebooks got popular for schools, not just cause they're cheap, but being more locked down and basically only useful for in browser work made them a good alternative to Windows machines.

However, some stuff specific to certain courses or classes may not be compatible with linux. Something like a photo editing college course that requires adobe (ew) would be an example.

I'd personally love to see Linux in the education sector more. With immutable distros, no licensing costs, and lower hardware requirements, Linux is likely going to be really attractive to schools that are looking for alternatives.

So sick that you were able to do this. Kudos for taking the initiative and making your community better.

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[–] muhyb@programming.dev 18 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Next month: The principal complains that the students play SuperTuxKart now. :)

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[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 17 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Little side note

those computers in question had either i5-4750 (I think?) or i7-4970 so running windows 10 with all its bloat was not going to be an easy task

The i7-4790K is still quite powerful, so I'm pretty sure this wasn't the problem, at all. Perhaps they're running on an HDD, have little RAM, or you got the CPU wrong.

You can see the CPU and RAM by launching System Info from tbf start menu, and see if it's running on an SSD or HDD by launching Disks from the menu.

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[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 17 points 1 month ago

Well done! Protip: You can use double new lines to format paragraphs. And full-stops.

[–] Romkslrqusz@lemm.ee 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Linux has been ready for education for a long time! Most of the public high school machines I interacted with in the mid 2000s were linux based. There was a dedicated Mac lab for creative work.

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[–] starstriker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It takes one technology inclined person to set it up, it's just takes another one to find a workaround, now the success of Linux in preventing gamers from doing their think depends on whether the second person decides to make the workaround known

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[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 16 points 4 weeks ago

Using Linux in the university back in 2004 helped make the jump to Linux at home and I have been using it for 20 years now.

[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's an awesome story. If all your doing is browsing the Web or using applications that can easily and stably run on linux or have drop in replacements then linux would definitely be totally viable. On the other hand if you need to install specific proprietary applications and you have to rely on wine then maybe not.

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Beautiful work .... I wish my school had done that when I was a kid.

The great thing about it is that now you are helping to generate a new crop of kids who will learn how to use Linux. Sure, they will try to do stupid things on it like install games or figure out how to bypass things or install or uninstall ... the great thing about that is that they will learn how to use the system in order to try to break it. It's the same way I learned how to use Linux and probably the same way you learned how to use it.

You've advanced the computer department for those kids more than you know.

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[–] carrion0409@lemm.ee 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wouldn't be shocked if more schools start looking for open source options as their funding gets cut by the current regime.

[–] Ace120C@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 month ago

Germany already moved their tech stack to FOSS alternatives for their government assigned computers!

there is actual progress that's being made 🥳

[–] bpev@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Focus on lessons instead of slacking, eh?

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This incident will be reported.
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[–] SanguineBrah@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

This is great for a handful of devices but I deploy and administrate hundreds of devices at my school. As much as I would love to, there's no way I could sell this without a really robust way of managing device policies & software deployment. I understand RHEL has something like that but that it isn't quite up to the same standard as the Microsoft admin ecosystem just yet.

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[–] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Minecraft Java Edition runs natively in Linux. But kids these days are probably playing Bedrock... chumps.

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[–] LiamTheBox@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Don't forget to test updates and make timeshift backups when needed, I never had a bad update but it really helps.

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[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago (9 children)

That’s super awesome

Buuuut my guest gaming machine is a 4670k machine and I can confirm that not only does Windows 10 run very smoothly on it, but it also runs most modern games at 60+FPS! CPU-bound games can struggle. We finally got my partner a new computer and made that one the guest machine when Persona 5 went from 80FPS down to 5FPS when they got off the train hahaha

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago

Btw I would recommend leaving a note on the desktop saying something like COMPUTER_SPECS.TXT. I had Linux on my computers in school, and I was thinking "holy crap Linux is slow and old", but it turned out to be cheap hardware (and I didn't know better, back then)

[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 13 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Lol a kid can google how to install games on linux, just need one to do it and teach the others, I used to bring games on a usb to play on macs through wine through the school lan, eventually I put them in some random folder on the school network, it didnt delete it til like the last day of school my senior year, wed copy the games to our computers and delete them at the end of class.

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

You have turned Roblox/Minecraft loving little kids into a lifelong Linux haters. 🤣

I applaud you.

PS: So how are the computers performing now?

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Minecraft runs natively on Linux, so it won't take them long to figure that out.

[–] Ace120C@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 month ago

well, the ones that do figure it out, they earned their game session, that would lowkey force them to learn linux, which is good tbh

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