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[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] ogeist@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Nailed it, that is how ransomware works.

in Italian gangster voice "Hey Buddy, give me your information, fair price for security, eh?, What? Do you not trust me? Buddy, you may lose your information, we wouldn't want that, right?, just make an account I'll handle the rest"

[–] ober9000@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It tech here. Yup sure does. For enterprise customers it gets saved in active directory anyway. But for home users, no way. For new devices I always create a local account and turn off bitlocker if it happens to be enabled. Most people don't remember their email password, some don't even remember their email address. So many times I've had to remove the drive of a dead PC or laptop and copy all their files off of it, because people just don't make backups. But already happenend a few times now that a private customer got suckered into making a Microsoft account by one of those full screen pop ups. Probably set it up with an E-Mail some relative of theirs created just so they can download stuff of their Phones App store. And all their stuff just gets automatically encrypted. Bye Bye all the photos you had taken for the last 10 years. Thanks Microsoft.

I just got bit in the ass by bitlocker when my laptop motherboard died. I had to do the unsafe bootloader hack to get back into the drive.

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[–] polle@feddit.org 9 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I read the article but am not smarter than before. I heard some time ago that windows does encrypt the drive but you need an active online account and the key will be saved online. So do people forget their online passwords and methods to recover that said account? I dont like m$ and am using linux, but people loosing their passwords, being uninformed about their systems and dont so backups is not the direct fault of the operating system.

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

you need an active online account and the key will be saved online

Is there a legit reason for this? Why can't they just encrypt the data with the password used to access the online account?

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[–] LoveSausage@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 23 hours ago

Just did a fresh win 11 install . In order to update bios before installing Linux. Refused to let me install without wifi but a quick googling and a command prompt later it was possible to work around easily

[–] habitualcynic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I helped my sister deal with this. Bitlocker activated itself, the keys were in her account which she had access to. She had done everything properly but nothing worked to resolve it.

There’s countless forum posts on it since about 2021 if you go looking for it. None of the recovery processes worked so I reformatted and enabled bitlocker at the start. Next time I visit, she’s getting Linux Mint.

Fuck Microsoft. End users shouldn’t be expected to troubleshoot like that.

[–] Killer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bitlocker can be turned on without having an account on device iirc.

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[–] Rooki@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah it can happen, when you force people without their consent encrypting their data.

[–] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (20 children)

Isn't that what Iphone and Android already do?

[–] Object@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

One major difference is that it is so much easier to lock yourself out of the desktop TPM chip compared to mobile device security chips because they're not tightly coupled.

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[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Huh .. I never noticed. Probably because my phone OS never failed to boot, requiring me to pull data off the HDD directly.

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (9 children)

When are stockholders going to realize that the current Microsoft CEO is ruining Windows?

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

They know, read their yearly financial reports. They said for a decade that Windows is not only not profitable, there's no future for it. Microsoft for several years now is a company that sells cloud and opensource services(Linux, Github, etc).

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I've decided to switch to Linux come october. I have some reasons I wanna wait as long as I can, but come october I'm leaving Windows behind.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago

I've decided to switch my gaming PC to Linux...a few weeks ago.

No ragrets. My games run faster, I no longer need extra shit to make Windows work the way I want it to work, and I can remote into it however I want without running into artificial roadblocks.

[–] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

Get started early so you have time to acclimate and address issues. You are going to hate it if you urgently need your computer for something and something unexpected happens.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I blame bitlocker.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm in favor of a heavy handed push towards encryption, I think most people don't realize how important this is (now more than ever), but windows should be guiding and educating on this not requiring, and it should have absolutely nothing to do with an email address or online account.

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[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I saw this problem coming a mile away

[–] LumpyPancakes@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago

Must have been a massive monitor.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 0 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

If they are still using windows, their privacy and data safety was never of importance to them, anyway.

Or just get the data back from the backups they made.

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