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Hi,

I might need to give away my Surface Pro 7 soon, and I'm considering what laptop to buy next. For a MS laptop, the surface behaved rather well on linux. Well, if it wasn't for the cameras, which never worked. I'm now wondering which laptop has good hardware support, that would be kinda like a surface, a 2-in-1 laptop. As in, detachable keyboard, that can operate in tablet mode and then once you attach the keyboard you have a full laptop. But with full Linux/cameras/everything support?

Does such thing exist? Thanks!

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[–] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Framework recently announced a 2 in 1 laptop the Framework 12. That might be something for you.

I'd say this over the V3 except all this tarrif nonsense has really messed with everything. Ordering now means you won't even get one til next year, and that's just on paper. Who knows when it will really be able to be shipped.

[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I might need it earlier than announced stage. However it's really interesting to hear they're also working on this format. I'll wait to see further news about this, depending on how soon I need my surface replaced.

Edit: aw, the keyboard isn't detachable on this one :(

[–] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Minisforum V3

I bought it because it was the only one of the few 2-in-1 / convertibles that has the option to come with 32GB RAM and doesn't have the on/off key in the corner of the normal keyboard, which I fucking hate. The price is also great, but especially so when you catch it at a discount. It is quite a high end device though.

I run arch on it and it runs well. Needed some manual fixes at the beginning which can be found at: https://github.com/mudkipme/awesome-minisforum-v3

[–] revanite@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Seems to be sold out currently.

[–] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 1 points 1 week ago

The SE variant is available on amazon.

[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I never heard of this one and it looks amazing (if a bit on the chunkier side). Do cameras work ok? Any hardware that doesn't work ok Linux?

[–] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Both cameras work for me. Fingerprint sensor works.

You can click through the different probes here https://linux-hardware.org/?view=computers&type=tablet&vendor=Micro+Computer+%28HK%29+Tech+Limited to see exactly what works and what doesn't on different distros at different times. At a quick glance it looks like mostly everything is working.

[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Great that's awesome information! I'll try to figure out the table but it looks really promising.

[–] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I recommend the website in general. It is very hard to parse tbh. but once you get used to it, it gives great info about parts and devices and the differences in kernel versions or even distros.

[–] mantra@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago

There is a Thinkpad (x12) that has a detachable keyboard. Thinkpads usually play nice with Linux, but I can't speak to that model specifically.

[–] JiveTurkey@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Buy a framework and don't look back.

[–] besselj@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

For an everyday use laptop/tablet, I'd also like to know. PostmarketOS is a good bet for switching Surfaces to Linux, but not all of the hardware features are working yet.