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Like y'all keep posting about it, praising it, giving it free advertisement, and what not.

But the dev is a fascist, the discord server is a fascist bar, and the project thus is fascist.

I've met people who were harassed, I browsed through now deleted messages of Vaxry using slurrs and more.

So I wonder is if the people who post constantly about it know and are complicit, or just don't know and would act otherwise?

It gets tiring to see the project be given "fame" when I know the roots of the plants are founded in toxicity & abuse.

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[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I don't care, i care for the tech. I don't need to make friends with the devs of the tech nor give them my money.

They have different political views than me, yes. Does it affect the tech they develop? Not in my opinion.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fascism is not an opinion.

[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fixed that, you are correct.

Still, I don't care if they are gay or straight communist or fascist, black yellow white or gray. Software is a tool and its apolitical.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Fascism isnt a political view either. Conservatism is a political view. It also cant be viewed the same as communism or socialism. One is based on feeding, housing and helping everyone while the other is tied to discriminating, abusing and even killing people of different ethnicity and ability.

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 days ago
[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Fuck hyprland

All my homies hate hyprland

[–] TMP_NKcYUEoM7kXg4qYe@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You probably don't care about my opinion, but one of the reason I don't really care about this is that I only have the "drama" second hand from very unreliable sources. There is the Vaxry's version of the story which cannot be trusted because that's conflict of interest. Then there is Drew, who according to a Distrotube video is quite a bizzare person, who really enjoys to stir the drama and write these extremely misleading "hitpieces" on famous FOSS people. The issue is that to me Distrotube is not a credible source regarding this either because he's got for me too schizo view of the world. He has a rifle collection, in case he has to fight for his country. (including a rifle, "that's good for children")

So it's just too foggy for me. Well I don't promote Hyprland because I don't care about my computer's "looks" and because according to some (I think) Void dev, Hyprland code is crap. But that's a different story. Anyways my point is that I can see why people can see it as not that bad.

edit: adding sources for the Drew, Distrotube and Void stuff, in that order. Also the Drew video relies on indirect evidence but for me it's fairly convincing.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=NLHIIVppdMw

https://youtube.com/watch?v=nvQ-ZY460WQ

https://reddit.com/r/voidlinux/comments/1eb3ivp/on_hyprland

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[–] ComradeRachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Sadly there are many people in the open source community who don't care, to them if the software is good then it doesn't matter who the artist is.

Specifically with the Linux community I feel like it's half queer people and half middle aged men and the other half often doesn't care and likely lean right wing or libertarian anyway.

That's my opinion at least. Tons of people still use and recommend Proton even though its founder and owner is toxic and harmful to queer people as well.

[–] pathief@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Have you tried to use only products made by nice guys or nice companies? It's impossible.

It's also a bit ironic to post this opinion on Lemmy, whose creators are also bigots.

[–] lilith267@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Imo theres a massive diffrence between using a massive companys software that only runs on their servers and generates money for them, and a completly FOSS tiling desktop that the creator almost quit because they get literally nothing from people using the code. The entire point of open source is to make software that benefits everyone nomatter the original creators views

[–] mamotromico@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago

I get the aspect that usage of open source projects don’t necessarily benefit their dev (for better or worse), but at the end of the day promotion of a software is still promotion of its dev (even if to a much smaller degree) and consequently their reach. I can understand why people like the op would have issues with it being actively recommended.

[–] thedaemon@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Gabe Newell is toxic and harmful?

[–] ComradeRachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Stiltonfondu@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

A belated happy 1st birthday to this blog post

[–] steeznson@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago

There's no drama like FOSS drama.

Agree with the other comments here saying that not everything in life should be viewed through the prism of politics. Civilised society is comprised of people putting their differences aside to work together on various endeavours.

[–] azron@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Find a better cause than this nothing burger. Literally nothing better to do but complain about some old discussion. God forbid you forgive and move on. No you said something that offended me years ago and I will not forgive such a terrible transgression. This 'look at me" posting is so tiring. Look at how great I am. Don't worry everyone I'll fall on the sword and call out the bad people.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

but complain about some old discussion

I wouldnt think 2 years is old, and its not like he changed his mind since then, in any capacity. what he did can't really be forgiven, except if you don't care about the safety of your peers. yes, I said safety, because people like vaxry often find joy in harming.. anyone they don't like.

[–] R00bot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago

Forgive my ignorance, but what did he do?

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[–] sunglocto@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago

I disagree with you. Of course having any actual point to disagree with you gets my comment removed, because Lemmy is awesome and is free speech and stuff. Yay. This shit is infuriating.

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