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[–] GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I adjusted my tip to 10%. Yep they don't pay tax, so I adjusted accordingly

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 1 points 6 days ago

A tip a lot because jobs where you get tipped suck and I want to support workers in those situations.

[–] ifeelsick@lemm.ee -3 points 6 days ago

the ignorance of calling this “people pleasing” behavior is crazy to me. Its not people pleasing to want somebody to have food on there table at night, or to pay their bills. its the awareness that its a fucked system and that were doing our part to support people. the amount of privilege in this tweet is jaw dropping.

its the equivalent of supporting women's rights and calling it “people pleasing” behavior. get fucked dude

[–] narr1@lemmy.ml 113 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'd find it almost funny, how much capitalism as a system seems to favor those who are most capable and willing to detach morality from their actions for capital gain, if it weren't so sad.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There are good criticisms of other economic systems that have been tried, but capitalism really seems designed to transfer the most power and resources to the greediest and least ethical.

I understand your point, and i totally understand the hatred of capitalism, because it is a cruel system.

Just let me put things into context, though:

Capitalism isn't the fundamental origin of the difficulties of our time. The difficulties have already existed earlier. There were the romans who waged war against basically the rest of the world, putting many people in hardship, and then there were the English in the 18th century who developed the modern version of capitalism.

In the roman system, it was all about power. You conquer some other country to get its resources, and you use these resources for personal gains. So it was direct personal greed.

The english refined the system in the way that they said, "alright, people are fundamentally greedy, but at least let's try to put that to good use. let's use the destructive power as positively as possible". And then they went and designed a system where companies that are more fit to provide attractive products to others gain power; As such, greedy assholes have an incentive to provide something to others, even if it's ultimately to their own gains.

I understand it's a small positive in an overwhelming crushing wave of greed and sociopathy; i just wanted to explain the background of modern-day capitalism and the origin of "companies" the way we know them today.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 24 points 1 week ago

No but you don’t understand.

Capitalism works because it pits everyone against each other and so even though every single person is greedy and unethical, they begrudgingly improve society overall because of reasons.

All we have to do is make sure we teach every child that all humans are fundamentally greedy and evil and the only ethical response is to out-greedy and out-evil them.

And then we’ll have a prosperous society!

  • Adam Smith basically
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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 86 points 1 week ago (24 children)

We should end tipping culture. Wages should never be optional, and anyone working full time should be paid by their employer a living wage as described by FDR when the minimum wage was created.

Until we end tipping culture, tip your servers. You're not some edgy social justice warrior by quoting Mr. Pink and acting like keeping your two dollars is somehow helping. You're just an asshole.

[–] Corn@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The whole point of that scene was that even a room of psychotic killers was disgusted by the idea of not tipping.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's amazing how many people saw it and said, "You know, the crazy-eyed murderer makes a good point."

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[–] unhrpetby@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 week ago (14 children)

Until we end tipping culture, tip your servers.

If everyone continues to tip by default, then I believe this will delay or prevent an end to the culture. If servers don't have an issue with tipping (because everyone does so), then there is less reason to support change.

If one person doesn't tip:

You're just an asshole.

If a large majority doesn't tip:

Maybe there is a problem with tipping by default?

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[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well in Australia we don't have tipping.

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[–] Please_Do_Not@lemm.ee 22 points 1 week ago (8 children)

In the US, servers and restaurant staff tip like 100% of the time they go out because they know how important it is with our current pay laws, and they know that the waiter expecting that tip isn't the one making the laws or who deserves to be punished for them. So that tip is almost always going to someone else who also tips.

Btw, don't bother arguing with me that tipping is wrong so we shouldn't do it. I agree that it's wrong, but abstaining punishes the wrong people (servers, not owners or policymakers). So instead of writing a comment, write a letter to you local govt to eliminate sub-minimum wages for tipped workers, and keep tipping poor waiters and drivers til they change something.

[–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

All the things I've read say that a majority of tipped workers (as well as the general population) prefer the current tips system. Maybe it's not true, but looking at the comments here it seems accurate.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Former tipped employee here. This is probably correct, but I don't care. The majority is often wrong. They can be educated. Change is scary, and the people who benefit from the status quo demonize changes that will give them less power.

I would probably have made less money if paid a salary, but it would be worth it to not have to balance priorities between getting a good tip and following restaurant policies.

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[–] GandalftheBlack@feddit.org 20 points 1 week ago (24 children)
[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 36 points 1 week ago (8 children)

If you're somewhere like Australia or Japan, where it's not a normal part of the culture, then fine

If you're somewhere in the US where the laws around pay are shitty, and people rely on tips to survive, then you're a cunt for not tipping

I think tipping is shit, and that people should just be paid properly, but I'm not blind to the realities of life when I travel. So I do what is appropriate to be a decent person

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