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A tax on people-pleasing (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 week ago by The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world to c/microblogmemes@lemmy.world

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[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I want to share my perspective on this as someone who works for tips.

I don't like tips in theory, but I'd be below the poverty line without tips so I really appreciate them. I also enjoy that they act as a mechanism to adjust my wage to the work I'm actually doing; I produce much more value as an employee on a busy day than when it's dead, and without tips I'd make the same amount despite working much more.

I think realistically, unless we also massively adjust how the labour economy works, eliminating tipping would make profits higher for owners and make service industry workers poorer.

Like I'd gladly trade my tips for universal basic income, I would not trade my tips for poverty wages.

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[–] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I still struggle with tipping on to go orders. I usually keep that at around 10% but sometimes I feel like even that much shouldn’t be warranted.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

It doesn't even make sense to do it then, but sometimes I cave to the pressure.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

I do 15%. I’m hoping the kitchen staff sees some of it.

[–] SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

And this is why when people call for to-go orders after I’ve started doing clean-up (usually 8 or 9), I won’t take their order and tell them kitchen is closed for to-go. If they come in to order that’s fine, and most nights I’ll do it basically up until I close down, because they are more likely to tip for it, and re-cleaning isn’t that hard. The owner of the place told me it’s entirely my call on that, and she won’t re-open the kitchen for to-go either because people usually don’t tip for it.

I cook everything myself as well as being the only bartender, and our food is fairly inexpensive, so it doesn’t end up costing all that much and 10% is basically nothing, assuming they even leave that. I’m not doing that shit for no reason. Fuck all that noise.

So do be conscious of what sort of place it is before you apply that rule. If it’s somewhere with a full kitchen and kitchen staff that gets paid decently, sure. Little bar and grill with at most 2 people working and making not that much? Ehhhh..

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[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 1 points 1 week ago

A tip a lot because jobs where you get tipped suck and I want to support workers in those situations.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Dunning Kreuger effect - the foundation of meme culture. Apparently somebody just finished Econ 101. Congrats!

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today -2 points 1 week ago (11 children)

You could make just as good a case that it’s the other way around.

A salaried employee makes the same amount of money whether they please people or not. Since pleasing people does not earn them extra income, they often won’t do it, and often their jobs even specifically require being an asshole (managers, supervisors, etc.) at least some of the time.

Someone who works for tips on the other hand can increase their pay quite a bit by pleasing people. And many professional assholes will actually tip quite well for good service, because being around other professional assholes all day can be quite tiring, and being generous for a change is a good way to unwind from that.

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