He thinks he's talking to conservatives, playing on their "thin blue line" sympathies. But like every other rank-and-file Democrat, he has failed to read the fucking room. The right-wing in America showed us on January 6th 2021 that their support of law enforcement is purely conditional, and will be revoked the minute they don't get their way. And the Left? We always hated cops.
His message reached zero people.
The ~~ICE~~ Gestapo agents, more likely.
If those soldiers and cops are there solely at the behest of s despot like the current one in office then they are expendable
If it comes to the point where the government is so bad that civilians have to fight against it, then the soldiers and police officers should join them.
Most will not. Look at history.
I said "should"
That would be nice, wouldn't it ? unfortunately cops are lawful evil, meaning they gave allegiance to DAS KAPITAL
Yea, so here's the thing bud, those guys are there to protect the capital owners.... Sorry. Pete's right about their inclusion however not accepting if they fail to stand down then they should go too.
Where does ICE fall in this paradigm?
Target practice.
It took me a moment to realize it was about AR as in AR-15 the gun and not augmented reality
It would be cool to see an arrow with a pig emoji pointing at police out of uniform.
To answer Pete Buttigeg:
That's the point! We're not Benjamin Netanyahu who enjoys targeting everyone but soldiers and police officers.
You know those Russian soldiers dropped their weapons during the October revolution.
If American soldoers are wise, they'd do the same.
The "don't step on me" people who talk about the right to bear arms often celebrate the police and the military
Well that sounds like more people need to bear arms.
I’d love to see some reports of “gun toting Americans” blasting the shit out of ICE agents. The problem is ice agents and gun toting Americans are the same group.
that's a fucking lie. there's plenty of armed leftists. not enough (yet) but plenty.
join us. there is no other way to stop the dystopia from spreading.
I have noticed that ICE usually wants to conduct their splashy raids in areas with very low gun ownership, e.g., NYC, Boston, etc.
We're not all in the same group... I'm not an ICE agent, but I am a gun toting ~~American~~ working class person.
He's right, you know. If you own an AR you shouldn't slack on practice. Go to the gun range regularly. Train how to clean and maintain it. You may one day be facing people who are well trained.
At the end of the day it's almost always tactics and physical readiness and not weapons systems. You can buy an apprentice the very best carpentry tools, but they aren't going to turn out anything amazing unless they practice in repetition.
Well, the gun would certainly improve my chances in the battle against fascist cops and soldiers. Political resistance is proving to be a failure. The Dems are already thinking that Kamala (proven failure) is our best chance against Trump 3.0 in 2028. No third-party will be viable by that date.
political resistance includes strikes, protests and mutual aid. oh and also guns when (because its just a matter of when in the us) it comes time for it. libs are just doing it aimlessly, start listening to the socialists and you won't even need to elect anyone to get shit done.
also its cute that some people think you are likely to see another election in 2028.
and proselitizing. don't forget proselitizing. if possible go to squares and city centers, perhaps with a small table or tent, lots of pamphlets and some good will to explain.
or talk to libs on the internet, since its equivalent in many ways to city squares 😉
but yeah, it isn't a substitute for working IRL.
This is only a problem because Americans continue to support Democrats. Unfortunately, we need to be even more clear that their corrupt and ineffectual politics are no longer desired than we did in ‘24, because the bozos are pretending they didn’t get the message. The corporate Dems work tirelessly to enable disastrous Republican policies all the time, usually at the behest of their common donors - they should just stop the charade and switch parties.
In the meantime, there are efforts to get leftist 3rd parties off the ground. This Is our only hope to “vote” our way out of fascism, and yes, I’m aware it’s a minuscule chance of success. People typically don’t vote their way out of fascism, historically speaking.
Leftists with guns: this is fine
Yeah no shit buddy. It's come to that point. I like you Pete, but don't bury your head in the sand on this one. American soldiers defend fascism.
I like you Pete
Why, though? He's a Neoliberal proponent of Reaganomics Lite and McKinsey grad (but I repeat myself) who keeps failing upwards.
Democrats will happily disarm everyone and hand the keys to the nation to the Republicans. The recent exhaltation of David Hogg in the party is proof. Not even January 6th 2021 will change their minds, they will never stop on their anti gun crusade.
The justice system is not meant to protect us as we can all plainly see. We are on our own.
Of course this is what it means. The people who wrote down this existing right had done the same to their equivalents. It's not a fantasy.
awesome, so no innocent people will get hurt
Oh yeah the very nice police force that has absolutely not been systematically trained to shoot first and ask questions later when things go south?
It seems to be the only cure for fascism, sadly.
If they are willing to defend facism and defend a dictator....then what's the problem?
At some point your "I'm just doing my job" becomes, "I support an American dictatorship.". Do you not have morals? Your "job" has now become antithetical to the American Democratic Ethos - you are now a de facto traitor to your country. Last I checked, traitors are an enemy of the state.
....so again, what's the problem?
Why are we punching a strawman made out of a 7 year old tweet? Get something more current of his to spit on.
Not even getting into how this can more squarely be aimed at GOPers who profess to love the cops and love the troops, but love the 2nd just as much. The article specifically about defending yourself from troops and cops.
Edit: swapped in "GOPers" bc sophistry
