This is just a bad meme. I get it. But a terrible meme.
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What Mac has ever had that RGB nonsense?
I think they mean to show something "fancy and expensive."
Which rather ignores the M2 $399 Mac Mini I can go pick up at Best Buy right now, which is kind of insane cost/capability.
But their upgrades are stupid expensive and there are things to complain about with Apple.
That thing ( the mac mini in all its incarnations) is a loss leader, borderline scam. It is priced way cheaper than it ought to be, so you don't notice that the most basic of ram or storage upgrades cost roughly 6 to 8 times more than market rate. It is so bare bones that you can't do anything actually productive without shelling the other $3-500 for the upgrades. And since everything is soldered to the board it is not user serviceable. The single most expensive piece of shit in the entire market.
You might've lost us at calling anything apple sells a "loss leader"
Your reading comprehension sucks then. Because I meant all the Mac mini line. Although they did apply the same logic to the air and pro. The mini is the worst offender. Anyway, I added the edit for posterity, even if it doesn't matter anymore.
I can guarantee MacOS will not run on that computer
Edit: I was not aware that ARM macOS worked on Intel chips
You could get it to run without a problem, but I don't understand why they would portray macOS as having heavier requirements than windows. Of the two, macOS is an order of magnitude cheaper to run than Windows.
Yah, like, there is plenty of negative things to say about Apple, but theyβre actually pretty good about keeping their stuff efficient.
Like, there is a reason they could get away with 4GBs of ram in the Mac book air as late as 2016.
That reason being them having no competition in the Mac market.
Their competition is literally the rest of the personal computer market?
The places where they violate trust law is in cellphone software, where the use market influence in hardware to force market influence in software and then extract undue fees from other companies.
I have an old MacBook (2012) that runs macOS 10.13 (High Sierra, released in 2017) on 4GB RAM. I use it a couple times a year if I need to compile something for Mac x86 and don't want to spend time setting up cross-compiling from my newer (M1) machine.
That MacBook is literally 13 years old, and the only upgrade I've given it is a new SSD back around 2018. It runs just fine.
Rip on the walled garden all you like, but if you want an OS with the stability and simplicity of a commercial OS, together with unix compatibility and a shell that lets you do whatever you want... macOS is your best bet. Using it literally feels like using a commercially polished and widely supported version of Linux.
Try open core legacy patcher Sonoma will work fine on it.
I could definitely run Linux on the machine, no doubt it would work even better then. In fact I have an old Ubuntu partition on it that I haven't booted in years, but which worked fine when I last used it.
However, the only purpose that machine serves at the moment is being an x86 Mac with a toolchain for compiling whatever, so that I can quickly compile distributables whenever I need to distribute something for x86 mac and don't want to spend time setting up a full pipeline for cross compiling (once or maybe twice a year).
their os is also unix-based
id take it over windows these days if it werent as locked down as it is.
It's harder to install on a non-Mac than LFS.
Challenge accepted.
ARM macOS doesnβt but x86 CPUs are still supported by macOS for the time being. Itβll be a sad day for the Hackintosh community when they drop that support though
Might still be possible to run it on other ARM processors.
Probably not, apparently there isnβt any standardization for ARM chips for booting
Thatβs what Iβm hoping but I believe the instruction set is different enough that thereβd have to be emulation which would tank performance? Admittedly this isnβt really my area of expertise though so I have no idea
For the CPU Iβm pretty sure itβs just standard ARM64, although the GPU is apparently their own thing, so maybe thereβd be issues there. Although Asahi Linux has a working driver for their GPU, so maybe itβs possible to get arm Mac OS to talk to other GPUs.
Hackintosh are still possible, so it probably can run ( Ν‘Β° ΝΚ Ν‘Β°)
Give me the internet and about 2 hours
Also, with Linux, do you really need the whole potato?
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Looks like somehow could not afford their holographic gaming pc sticker skin for their mac pro tower.
Sucks to be you my friend.
Btw that potato uses Arch.
I use starch BTW
I was unprepared for this and now I need to clean the carpet.
Itd be hilarious if one day something like that worked, idk how things wouldnt get their signals crossed but science turned lead into gold so i assume something can be done about it in a thousand years.
This diagram is wrong. You can't end-mount RAM in that type of potato.
You can at that angle
What is actually the lowest end device that can run Linux
What is actually the lowest end device that can run Linux
The Pi Zero and LePotato come to mind. Both are pocket sized and surprisingly capable.
But both are modern computers, and Linux has been around for a long time. So I wonder if the correct answer is something much older, larger and less capable. So this is probably a question for historians? (I don't see an obvious answer on Wikipedia.)
I think maybe my real question is, what's the lowest power device that can run Linux. Kinda like how two potatoes can run a clock
For lowest power, the LePotato is (humorously) named for it's low power requirements, and I understand the Pi Zero can actually run for hours on small rechargeable battery packs.
A smaller lower power draw Pi Zero alternative that comes to mind is Arduino Teensy. But it sounds like no one is running Linux on Arduino Teensy, yet ?
But the folks in that forum sound like the types who might make it happen at some point.
I'm fascinated by the plotpoint in Portal 2 when an AI is able to be run off of a single potato. I wonder if that'll be possible someday.
The first Linux kernels were written for the 386 and 486 and single or double digit megabytes of RAM. Early 1990s technology. Before Windows 95 and Pentiums even.
Now, if you want a GUI that runs nicely, at least for some hardware, you probably going to need to hit mid-to-late '90s hardware, and it'll still be pretty basic.
Something like the allwinner A13 is down at the low end of practical. It's about $1 per chip, wholesale. People have gotten it running on an ATMEGA before. It required a bunch of helper components however, and took 2 hours to boot up.
I think someone once ran it on a dead raccoon.
Using it as a case? Or a power source
Which Mac model is that?
The Hackintosh, its getting rarer to find though.
Took them like two decades but they finally almost killed Hackintosh :(. All it took was developing their own CPU
I did the same thing with the Linux machine there, but we got it up and running with a sweet potato using a patch set for the kernel and cross compiling it from the basic potato release. We did find the drivers for the VGA card we salvaged from a scrap pile too! Got it up to the full 640x480 supported by the card.
You could say it was a sweet setup.
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