this is why i simply refuse to work for anyone else. period.
i quit society in 2016 and have never looked back.
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this is why i simply refuse to work for anyone else. period.
i quit society in 2016 and have never looked back.
Why do
LinkedIn users write their essays
In this format? Many other platforms
Have the same limitations for character count
Or even lack of rich text formatting
Yet people don't write like this.
Where did this
Culture come from?
Most business people are too stupid to handle paragraphs with more than 2-3 sentences. I'm not joking; I literally have to write emails like this if I want them read.
Side rant here. I'm working on a project for a new application, after a couple months work I finalised the 150ish requirements, however before approval could be given to approach businesses I had to do some internal box ticking.
I organised this technical meeting with the IT guys to run through all the requirements, tick and flick that everything was fine. It was a 3 hour meeting that I had booked 7 weeks in advance to ensure everyone could attend.
3 weeks before the scheduled date a general manager insists on attending and self-invites. The moment the meeting starts the GM immediately says "they don't want to read all these requirements" and "don't you have a presentation?" Followed by "where are the pictures?".
The entire meeting basically derailed there and we only made it through maybe 50% of what we needed to with zero ticking or flicking. That was 3 weeks ago, the project has almost stalled now and I'm still trying to recover the time/progress/momentum I had.
Fucking managers and their demands to be included and flat out refusal to read.
Functional illiteracy is a thing, pretty sure my last boss fell into this category. Everything had to be a meeting, couldnt do work by email or chat. He had to review and approve my reports, and they would sit for months. I think there was a nine month back log when I left.
Holy crapoli, the memories this triggers. Suffice to say I am soooooo glad to be retired.
I'm on a 12 month contract at the moment but the company just advertised 8 permanent jobs at my level. I'm passing on submitting an application.
I'm pretty sure...
You're not gonna believe this but...
I think it all came from web marketing guru funnel-builder-ebook-masterclass-mentor-course types.
And it circlejerked with business types to capitalize on shorter and shorter attention spans.
I was like you. I was a normal guy. And one day I decided to take a guess at where this irritating "writing style" came from...and why it was EVERYWHERE...
...and you won't believe what I came up with (Or maybe you will, because you're ultra smart , I can tell just by the way you're reading this, you're not like everyone else, you're special, click the button at the end of this really long pointless babbling)...I think it's because...
People scroll, and short little paragraphs keep you reading.
In bite-sized little chunks. So you keep scrolling and scrolling waiting for it to get to the point....
...so what are you waiting for? Lame call to action by clicking the button below to get added to my email spam list and an empty ghost town "Master Life Changer" Discord / web forum! Filled to the gills with...
...obvious filler nonsense...for 900 days absolutely risk free...
...I wouldn't bet my couch and my sister's angry little chihuahua, Señor Gordito Cabrón if I wasn't 100% serious about the value in these stupid paragraphs...
If you don't get any value from this offer, I'll personally ship that little jerk to Cesar Milan. Just so he learns some respect after stealing my tacos
You can even keep the couch and any change you find in its depths as mygift to you.
~~I'll even finally get the sister to therapy, as an Internet marketing family we've neglected all the signs and cries for help for far too long.~~
All you gotta do is keep scrolling until the wheel on your mouse pops out...
...and one day you too can have a Lambo. You deserve it.
Normally, my grift is valued by myself (and nobody else) at an obnoxiously high number that ends in a 7 for some reason...but today is special.
Still here? I knew you were The Chosen One Destined for Greatness .
Time is running out, even though this special offer has been sitting on this static page for months. It's only like ~~$1234.57~~ $667.97 now. Just for you. (I'm practically giving it away because you're so cool. I have to sell one of my boats now just to make ends meet. My wife is so upset she's taking the kids to her mom's for a few days, but I believe in you THAT MUCH.)
Still not convinced?? That's understandable. This can continue saying the same gibberish 18 different ways...
...until you've read so far clicking the button is basically sunk cost fallacy at this point...
...Ugh that made me physically sick writing like that even as a joke LOL.
EDIT: In some twisted way I'm so proud of this marketer mockery I keep editing it when I think of a way to make it even stupider lol. I'm gonna touch grass soon I swear...
EDIT EDIT: Oh no, it has formatting now. And got increasingly unhinged. What have I done?!
> applies to join an evil company
> is surprised when gets evil done on them
I hope this guy spends some of his now ample free time relentlessly reposting this all over the place.
The company doesn't care about you. The company doesn't care about you. The company doesn't care about you.
This is why you don't plan your life around a job. Plan your job around your life.
That sounds like a very privileged mindset to me. Most of us don't have the resources to have that luxury.
I don't want to kick the original author while they're down, but PayPal is a known shit company, and has been almost from the start. It's closely related to the leopards-ate-my-face phenomenon — if you're willing to work for a shit company, expect shit.
Not everybody has all the information to know whether a company is known for this kind of shit. I've heard a lot of stories about PayPal screwing over sellers in particular by freezing their funds for no justified reason, but I can see people falling for the "they must have been doing something bad they aren't admitting" you always see in response to anyone complaining about some authority imposing arbitrary punishments on them.
My personal gripe with PayPal is, I was once relying on income from sales through them, and had withdrawn money to my bank that I needed to pay my rent. A customer filed a spurious dispute (later resolved in my favor) on a sale that was only a tiny portion of that, and their response was to immediately reverse the whole completed bank transfer. So I almost missed paying rent and had to scramble to figure it out at the last minute.
Anyway, fuck PayPal, sympathy to all their victims.
People have been falling for the lies of big tech companies for too long. We desperately need unions, and those unions need to push back on these kinds of ineffectual, time-wasting hiring processes.
Look at this asshole though. The image cuts off right when he's starting into the mealy-mouthed hustle culture part of the linkedin post. Gotta show that you, special magical you, are the one developer who doesn't mind the exploitation. You stay positive and give 110% to everything, even when they're fucking you over.
There's always a stupid as shit hustle bro willing to scab and do the work, they can vibe code through it I guess. If this god forsaken industry had any solidarity at all, then no tech company you've ever heard of would be able to hire a single person any more.
From my layman's perspective it sounds like this should net him some compensation under promissory estoppel
That was the very first thing I thought of. For the unaware, promissory estoppel is when party A is damaged by party B promising something, then later rescinding it. It is something you can file a lawsuit over.
For instance, maybe someone says “I’ll buy you a brand new Maserati if you drive your current car off a bridge.” You know they can afford the car, and a reasonable person would believe this promise. So you shake on it, and proceed to dump your car over the side of the bridge. Then that person laughs and goes “yeah, I changed my mind. I’m not buying you a Maserati.” Now you have been damaged because of an action you took due to their promise. You can sue them, to force them to fulfill their side of the promise, or at least to make you whole again.
In the screenshot’s case, it sounds like he made some major financial investments in this job. He moved to a new location, turned down other job offers, etc… He could sue PayPal to force them to repay the costs that he incurred as a result of their rescinded job offer.
The only reason employers still do shit like this is because individuals either don’t realize that they can sue for it, or don’t realize that lawyers will take their case.
The only reason employers still do shit like this is because individuals either don’t realize that they can sue for it, or don’t realize that lawyers will take their case.
Is this one of those instances where the corporation can/will do stuff like deploy their lawyer army to tie up the victim and wait them out with expensive and time-wasting legal process...before offering them a $50 gift card to shut up and hold the company eternally blameless forevermore?
I got unemployment in California in a very similar scenario, pretty sure they explicitly state something like this is a valid reason somewhere on that hellhole of a website
Idk about other places in this dumpster fire of a nation, but silicone valley is here, so maybe?
That post turned into garbage in the last visible paragraph. In such a case he should sue the recruiting company, not post about "have i given it my best". LinkedIn trash
Bro's been brainwashed by hustle & grind culture. He's not ready to accept he's a victim.
He's being held hostage by unemployment in 2025. Even though it seems like he's caving it's not a bad move. He exposed the situation and at the same time kept an optimistic stance for future opportunities.
I'm sorry, but if a prospective employer is asking me to do seven rounds of interviews, I'm going to take that as a giant red flag that they a.) don't respect me or my time and b.) are woefully incompetent at every other aspect of their business.
The giant red flag is the name "PayPal".
This is the shit I'm worried about when family members tell me I should expand and keep my mind open to moving somewhere to chase a job. I don't have the resiliency to survive a failure like this.
the last paragraph took this post from "that sucks" to solidly "yea this didn't happen" territory It's just more pro corporate slop meant to keep people on the platform instead of going out and looking for local jobs or going to actual websites to find open positions
General advice before was to wait until you’ve signed the contract and have a start date before quitting your current job. Now you have to wait until you actually start the new job before you quit the old one?