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My first months on Lemmy were spent on Lemmy.world, which was the biggest instance at the time. I had no experience with Hexbear because .world had defederated that instance. I sometimes saw it being described as a "tankie" instance, but it was nothing specific.

After I moved to .zip, I came across !games@hexbear.net, which seemed to be free from anything overtly political and reminded me of r/Gamingcirclejerk, so I subscribed to it and occasionally made comments related to gaming.

Today I made multiple comments to a post about an article on the STALKER game developers having removed the Soviet symbols and the Russian audio in the remastered edition of the game. I would argue that in the thread, there were no comments from me that could be construed by a reasonable person as defensive of Nazism, fascism, or even hinting at it. For example, in one of the comments, I linked a Ukrainian law that prohibits the use of Nazi symbols, though I highly advise looking through all my ten comments as to avoid any misunderstanding or false impressions.

Conversely, one comment posted by another user dismissed Holodomor as Nazi propaganda, which I reported, but a moderator of that community just ended up calling me out for that and taking no action, followed by them banning me.

The thread containing all of my untouched posts is still available via lemmy.zip. My comments are also available for viewing via my user page. They are not available on hexbear due to the ban.

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[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 67 points 3 days ago (16 children)

And now you know why most instances have defeated from hexbear. It’s extremely toxic.

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[–] viking@infosec.pub 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well, now you know why sensible admins defederate from this trash. I'd suggest using an app that allows you to block instances from your side and ignore them.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You don’t need an app, it’s a native Lemmy feature.

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[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 49 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

Yah, that’s why people call them tankies. Any criticism of the USSR, or even acknowledging why people criticize it, is a banable offense.

The term tankie get’s thrown around a lot, to the point of dilution, but the origin of it comes from western communist who defended the Soviet Union putting down the 1956 Hungarian revolution, notably using T-54/55 tanks. It later came to mean western communist that would ignore or downplay any criticism of the USSR, as “propaganda”. These days it could even be applied more broadly to “People who call them selves left wing or communists but who will defend the actions of any authoritarian regime so long as it is notionally in opposition to the US and it’s allies” IE people who defended Assad and Putin.

I think hexbear fits even a fairly narrow older definition. Which is why most major instances are defederated from them.

[–] rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

long as it is notionally in opposition to the US and it’s allies

Man, I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but Russia isn't even opposed to the US, as long as the Christian white supremacist fascists are ruling things.

The sheer irony of people playing defense for a white supremacist fascist state and then accusing someone else of being a "fascist sympathizer". Like dawg the call is coming from inside the house.

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[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 27 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Hexbear is a septic tank of degenerates.

[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 3 points 2 days ago

I’m certain it’s run by APT groups. It’s a front for Russian psyops, 100%.

[–] lesserprophet@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Post this over at !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works they love this kind of content.

[–] Rose@lemmy.zip 19 points 3 days ago

Never heard of that, but I'll crosspost. Thanks! 😄

[–] sidtirouluca@lemm.ee 18 points 3 days ago (7 children)

how can i remove hexbear, grad and ml from my lemmy? i use boost app. thx

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

You can block posts from different instancs, but you cannot block comments.

I'd recommend you switch to a server that blocks them, like lemmy.ca, sopuli.xyz or discuss.online or use a different software like piefed which supports proper blocking (piefed.social).

[–] Lupus@feddit.org 13 points 3 days ago

In the app you can mute posts from instances, to also get rid of the users you need to use the webpage as someone else mentioned.

To mute the instance in the boost app go on the profile icon, lower right, settings (upper right), "Filters & blocks", there you should see the option "mute instances", type in the instance handle and posts from that instance shouldn't show up anymore.

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[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Ukrainians have the same problem with neo-Nazis as other ex-Soviet countries.

Holodomor is a bit of a fuzzy matter, it's picking a part of the more wide scale events relating to Ukraine and calling it genocide of Ukrainian people, while genocide involves intention to wipe out an ethnic group.

This was more of Stalin's USSR treating people as expendable and hunger as acceptable when he needed the resources to build heavy industries for the military. Most of the grain producing areas of the USSR were in Ukraine and south of Russia, which is also where most of the victims were, because grain was taken by force according to planned norm and to fake reports (as it happens in such systems, administrators overreporting gains and underreporting losses).

So I somewhat feel strange when people talk of it like genocide example, but people arguing against that are usually worse, so let it be.

Anyway, the point of this comment was - those people don't even think of such things, they act purely on vibes. Most of Soviet propaganda was intended for people literate in the first-second generation, it relied on vibes even more than, say, Nazi German propaganda or Western propaganda of that time and of our time. That allows it to work on people very far from Soviet reality or knowledge of USSR's history. (Of course, there were more intelligent levels of Soviet propaganda, they seem almost fully forgotten, include marxist dialectics, optimism of the future, dreams of a united peaceful planet of intelligent people using their lives for learning and creation, and no war and violence. Would be weird to expect tankies to be familiar with anything of that.)

You can't reason with people acting on vibes. Your comments' vibes for them are predefined, you don't affect them.

[–] Chill_Dan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What do you mean by vibes exactly?

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Music, art style, socrealism in portraits. Soviet architecture (the monumental and decorative kind). All that.

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[–] Hubi@feddit.org 17 points 3 days ago

Do yourself a favor and just block the entire instance from your profile settings. It's irredeemable.

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