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Tried to support the industry by buying a movie a watch a lot. Well, no more. If I need a pihole just to watch a movie I own, that's ridiculous.
"It also enables the delivery of advertising content"
They already paid for the product! Double-dipping assholes
triple-dipping, they also get your data.
I wonder if these people think everyone wants to be advertised to.
I don't think they care
No, I am 100% certain they know that the vast majority of people don’t care and some people really really hate it, but nobody actually enjoys it.
Someone I know who is currently on a pseudoscience and conspiracy theory arc genuinely believes that personalized ads are good because then you can easily buy things you know you'll like
sadly, i too heard that from somebody 🤷
No no, you see. You didn't pay for the product but the license for the product. Now it makes sense, right?
Yeah I just straight up pirate movies now, I don't even try to hide it from people anynore. It's clear to me at this point that all these companies care about is getting richer by the minute off the backs of the common man, and their excuses for doing so are getting more and more pathetic.
I have friends who work in the film industry and they pirate movies and TV shows all the time.
Me too. By the time a movie or TV show actually makes it to distribution, most people who worked on it have already made their paycheck and moved on to the next project.
What capitalists are doing is intentionally sharpening the contradiction, probably with the goal of a revolution or reform in their favor (as can be seen in the USA right now). The neat thing about sharpened contradictions is that it will inevitably lead to change, the bad thing is that this is a massively organized effort with tons of planning and coordination, and The People:tm: are not ready for it.
Pirating movies is pretty good though. Mainstream media always manages to exploit labor incredibly harshly, to the point of suicide, and that behavior should not be rewarded IMO. Of course there is no ethical consumption under capitalism, but one can dream. As an aside, pirated media is also incredibly convenient. There is a great community spirit in the piracy community.
Piracy is now better and safer than using "real" discs. Well done, Sony.
I’m still getting justified in my boycott of anything Sony that started in 2005, when they bricked my PC for daring to put a Sony CD in my computer’s CD player! Fucking rootkit.
Yes I’m still holding that grudge and I will not relent, for as long as I live.
Any movie I watch I make sure it’s not a Sony product, any music I listen to, I make doubly sure it’s not from a Sony studio. Any electronics I buy, I make triply sure it doesn’t contain any Sony product. Sony is not getting a dime from me ever again!
Fuck Sony!
Yes! I’ve never met anyone else who’s been boycotting Sony since the rootkit! Maybe there are dozens of us? Either way: fuck Sony!
That rootkit thing failed miserably, thankfully, and audio CDs have been DRM-free ever since.
The industry will take whatever steps it needs to protect itself and protect its revenue streams ... It will not lose that revenue stream, no matter what ... Sony is going to take aggressive steps to stop this. We will develop technology that transcends the individual user. We will firewall Napster at source – we will block it at your cable company. We will block it at your phone company. We will block it at your ISP. We will firewall it at your PC ... These strategies are being aggressively pursued because there is simply too much at stake. - Steve Heckler, senior vice president of Sony Pictures Entertainment Inc, August 2000
quote from https://web.archive.org/web/20010201204600/http://www.nyfairuse.org/sony.xhtml
via https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal
Wow I’ve never seen this quote. That’s something.
there is simply too much at stake
OUR MONAYS!1!!!!
Why is your Blu-ray player connected to the internet?
VLC on a Linux laptop. You think my Blu-ray player has the ability to take screenshots?
Yes, and I assume you wrote this message on your blu-ray player and typed it with your remote
You never heard of a capture card?
Can I introduce you to my friend MakeMKV?
Does VLC report this? Kinda seems like the sorta thing that only works on actual players.
It tried to. I use an opnsense firewall which caught it. I copied my logs and submitted the domains to a popular dns blocklist and they’ve already been merged.
Yeah it seems really strange. I know some Bluray players support Internet connectivity but unless they're also a Streaming box I don't see why people would connect them to the internet. Really it seems like the majority of people don't so not sure how useful this feature is.
Haha no it doesn’t.
unplugs NIC
rips blu-ray with blu-ray drive running old firmware
Welp, blu ray playyæer sure don't need no internet - gimme dumb technology plz
can we find a way to spoof this so that they think legit physical disk usage is going up?
I legitimately cannot remember the last time I paid for a movie or TV show, or music.
Digitally, or physically.
Even if you count streaming services, its been over 5 years since I laid for Spotify... stopped paying for any kind of on demand videos before even that.
Friends wanna watch a movie at my place? Oh, I have a 10 TB library.
Oh, at your place? Does your TV have a USB port? Tell me its model number and I can figure out what codecs it can actually read.
Can you share which movie this was? I've never seen anything like that.
My Blu Ray player has never been connected to the web, its region free, but doesn't do 4k-BD. My Linux HTPC is configured with an ASUS libredrive, and has MakeMKV installed. The Linux variant of MakeMKV is borked right now, in a good way! The 30 day trial period doesn't expire!
If I wanna watch a 4k bluray I have to rip it and watch it on my PC, because I'd rather do that than get a BD player that needs internet
The fact that they don't give you the option to "refuse" but rather to "skip" annoys me to such an extent. Leave us alone, you never needed to do this.
This isn't a EULA in that it still allows you to use the product even if you decline...
This option is available with most modern games these days. They often ask you to click "approve" twice, knowing you won't read either and knowing that you believe that you need to accept both to proceed. When in reality, the second one is almost always optional (perhaps even by law because of laws in the EU).
Still gross. And definitely a major dark pattern, but if people just took an extra 3 seconds to double check, they'd stop sending all of their data to these companies.
Wait do modern Blu-ray players connect to the Internet?
Edit: it’s really cool when people do that annoying Reddit thing where they all want to say the exact same thing for some reason so they all pretend they don’t see all the other comments saying exactly the same thing too.
At least you can watch BDs without a web connection still. For now....
Also, LibreDrive is a thing for hacking BD drives with in order to bypass DRM, but I wouldn't be surprised if that got blocked and/or taken down at some point.
What happens of you hit skip. Does it not let you play the disk?
I would assume based on the line where it says you can go into the settings and opt out at any time that yes you canin fact choose not to accept this. But most people aren’t even going to think about it, which is what they are gambling on
It let's you continue no problem.
Just like most modern video games these days that have the second agreement after the EULA. They make it seem necessary, knowing 99% of people will see all of the words and just skip to the bottom and hit "accept."
Still gross, but not really the problem that people here seem to think it is.
LMFAO. And when I tell people to take care about leaving Jellyfin public with their open API endpoint issues... Yeah Sony WILL abuse your shit... They already do it.
I run a pivpn setup so that nothing is exposed to the internet at all. It's just too dangerous now. It was bad back in the day, but now I literally have bots trying to join any public facing Minecraft server. It's so many times worse now than it was a decade ago.