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Definitely has his grip on reality, this one

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Gee, I wonder what causes congestion in high speed lanes and roads? Too many fucking cars at the same time? Nah, it must be some communist subversion

[–] musubibreakfast@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

It's wild deer, there might not actually be any but just the idea of them makes people drive in a less efficient manner. It doesn't help that the deer are communist.

[–] formergijoe@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

"No one in New York drove. There was too much traffic." -Phillip J. Fry

[–] pero@lemm.ee 33 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"Please bro one more line on the highway bro please just one more lane"

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

this line makes me think of ai:

bro just a few more power plants, gimme a nuclear one and some coal fired, please bro, it'll all be worth it with just a few more gigawatts. It'll make sense then, just a few more plants broooo

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (18 children)

Fun fact: The faster a car travels, the bigger the spacing between the cars gets. That's necessary to leave enough distance for emergency stops.

While the speed increases linearly, the spacing increases with the square, meaning at double the speed, the spacing quadruples, which in turn means that throughput (number of cars per hour) halves.

This is the reason why many regions use electronic speed signs to drop the speedlimit lower when there's congestion. Because it increases throughput and thus reduces travel times.

The optimum speed for high throughput is 30km/h.

Counterintuitive as it might be, drivers should be all for 30km/h speed limit in cities, because it would make them get to work faster.

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 days ago

That's also the fastest speed before sharply increasing the likelihood of fatality in pedestrian collisions

[–] Bababasti@feddit.org 16 points 2 days ago

You can cite an infinite amount of proven facts and studies, car brains will never accept your „communist propaganda“. This whole discussion is too emotionally loaded to be based on facts.

Another related fun fact: Larger vehicles are harder to see around, so people have to leave even more distance which reduces throughput.

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[–] Mallspice@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I drive. The biggest causes of congestion I see are…

  1. Dumb driving because Americans aren’t taught to zipper merge and can be dangerously unpredictable due to do widespread emotional instability.

  2. Bad car design. The customer isn’t always right, regular folks should not be driving tanks and should not have AI superseded user control. People die here all the time because of these things. Cybertruck is the most obvious example given its lack of bumper zones and tech that’s so cheap it kills it’s own users but the most common example is probably a Ford or GM pickup truck. I think the Japanese may have the best cars as I saw a compact van that seemed far more practical and safe than many American vehicles. China has some good looking ones too. Compact doesn’t look as sexy but is way better for everyone.

  3. Bad road design. I have no problems with bike lanes or even less lanes if travel time is roughly the same. I love roundabouts and sidewalks full of trees to shade pedestrians and wide enough to protect them from cars. I love when corners give me good visibility going around corners. In the US this is rarely the case. We are plagued by construction contractors milking cities to do projects slowly and create problems the people will want them to fix in the future and lack of regulation to ensure all modes of transport are viable in all but a few cities.

[–] threeganzi@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I think it’s established fact that you can’t reduce congestions by adding more lanes and roads. Not because of bad road design but because the amount of cars will fill up those new lanes. So saying ‘cars cause congestions’ is pointing at the fact that regardless of how many roads or lanes we have the will be filled. Hence roads aren’t the problem, but cars are.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I think it’s established fact that you can’t reduce congestions by adding more lanes and roads.

I mean, if it worked we would see the successes in all those giant freeway cities but instead the problem just grows.

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[–] flandish@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

communism is when bike lanes.

[–] art@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Bikes are not usually allowed on the highway, yet the highway experiences congestion. How is that?

[–] BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I once had the pleasure of cycling the Shimanami Kaido in Japan, a bike route that connects the islands of Honshu and Shikoku, hopping between all these minor islands on the way over suspension bridges carrying the main highway.

The bike lane is protected the whole time. In one case, the bike route is actually below the deck of the bridge, and you're on a fenced-in catwalk hundreds of feet over the channel between the islands. Views for miles over Osaka bay.

Honestly, when I look back at my life, it's probably my favorite thing I've ever done. If only the U.S. invested in bike infrastructure like that.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Current plan for the new cape cod bridges include a protected bike lane with a great view over the canal!

Too many people complain we could fit an extra lane in that space without thinking. Sure there are huge backups, but those are addressed with the new design not making cars slow down and not having entrance and exit ramps right there. Most importantly, you’re crossing to a two lane highway so there is no benefit to more than two lanes. Allowing continuous flow to the amount that the other side can handle reduces congestion. Anyone you can get on a bike is the one that will reduce congestion. And for all that is holy, let’s run the Cape Flyer often enough to be useful

[–] BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That's great to hear! I was actually living in Somerville when I did that Japan trip. The extension of the bike path and really that whole rails-to-trails project were wonderful for the community. We need more projects like that - glad to hear the cape is getting some.

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[–] callyral@pawb.social 6 points 1 day ago

"Ants don't *create* ant colonies."

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago

What it wrong with that guy? Did a bike fuck his wife or something?

[–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

You're right. They don't create congestion.

They ARE congestion.

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[–] aaron@infosec.pub 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I'd say he's right. In a way. Cars don't create congestion, they are congestion.

Fine. And with this realisation let's end the phrase "I'm stuck in traffic". Cars aren't stuck in traffic, they are traffic.

Every bike on the road is one less car.

Other than that this guy seriously needs to get out into the fresh air and spend sometime around people (if it is a guy, it's overwhelmingly most likely a bot and so a genuinely harmful thing to engage with, get angry about, republish here, or do anything with other than ignore).

Social media is just getting worse, and although there is much to like about defederation, a lot of the content here is not healthy.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Fix and expand the US public transportation system. Building infrastructure for automobiles is fucking backwards.

[–] RockBottom@feddit.org 234 points 3 days ago (37 children)
[–] marius@feddit.org 127 points 3 days ago (7 children)

See, the problem is that you only have two lanes in the city /s

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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 90 points 3 days ago (14 children)

It's crazy how our 18-lane highway, with none of the stuff mentioned, is gridlocked all the time. 🤔

Maybe one more lane, bro!

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[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My car doesn't create congestion. It's everyone else's that's the problem.

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[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 159 points 3 days ago (5 children)

oh no they called me a communist however shall i cope

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[–] SleepyBear@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Reminds me of a quote "Every single drop of water felt it could not be to blame for causing the tidal wave/flood" Me remembering it is a little rough, but the concept stays the same lol.

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[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Isaiah is not a smart man.

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 54 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It amazes me that this country literally has state borders built around rail systems, a huge dependence on rail for shipping, but decided to just pave over trolley rails, and jack prices of train transit to thousands of dollars for just a few hundred miles. Then the government forces us to pay shittons of money into our vehicles in taxes, insurance, etc without regulating the private companies that we're forced to pay. Meanwhile other countries have super fast trains to travel, subsidized with tax money, and travel seems to be more efficient.

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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 110 points 3 days ago (9 children)

If you're stuck in traffic, you ARE the traffic.

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

Actually none of those cause congestion, not demolishing 1,000,000 of homes to add 100 lines to my commute route does :3

/s

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 55 points 3 days ago (2 children)
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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

The Soviet Union is long gone. Communist should no longer be a derisive and should sound like a 20th century cliché in 2025.

I wonder (can't confirm) if the evergreen state of communist or socialist as derision is due to the far right propaganda industrial complex still pushing (hard) that anything that isn't capitalism is a moral wrong.

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