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Definitely has his grip on reality, this one

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Gee, I wonder what causes congestion in high speed lanes and roads? Too many fucking cars at the same time? Nah, it must be some communist subversion

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[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 39 points 4 days ago (19 children)

Fun fact: The faster a car travels, the bigger the spacing between the cars gets. That's necessary to leave enough distance for emergency stops.

While the speed increases linearly, the spacing increases with the square, meaning at double the speed, the spacing quadruples, which in turn means that throughput (number of cars per hour) halves.

This is the reason why many regions use electronic speed signs to drop the speedlimit lower when there's congestion. Because it increases throughput and thus reduces travel times.

The optimum speed for high throughput is 30km/h.

Counterintuitive as it might be, drivers should be all for 30km/h speed limit in cities, because it would make them get to work faster.

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 4 days ago

That's also the fastest speed before sharply increasing the likelihood of fatality in pedestrian collisions

[–] Bababasti@feddit.org 16 points 4 days ago

You can cite an infinite amount of proven facts and studies, car brains will never accept your „communist propaganda“. This whole discussion is too emotionally loaded to be based on facts.

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[–] RockBottom@feddit.org 234 points 5 days ago (38 children)
[–] marius@feddit.org 127 points 5 days ago (6 children)

See, the problem is that you only have two lanes in the city /s

[–] Nukul4r@feddit.org 56 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 33 points 5 days ago

Just one more lane bro. I promise bro just one more lane and it'll fix everything bro. Bro, just one more lane. Please just one more, one more lane and we can fix this whole problem bro, bro c’mon just give me one more lane i promise bro, bro bro please! Just need one more lane

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[–] pero@lemm.ee 33 points 4 days ago (2 children)

"Please bro one more line on the highway bro please just one more lane"

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 159 points 5 days ago (4 children)

oh no they called me a communist however shall i cope

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 72 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

When it gets to the stage that you get called a communist, you know you have won the argument.

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[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 39 points 5 days ago

usually when I get called a communist, it's when I'm explaining that people deserve basic human rights.

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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 90 points 5 days ago (14 children)

It's crazy how our 18-lane highway, with none of the stuff mentioned, is gridlocked all the time. 🤔

Maybe one more lane, bro!

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[–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 46 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

You're right. They don't create congestion.

They ARE congestion.

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[–] art@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Bikes are not usually allowed on the highway, yet the highway experiences congestion. How is that?

[–] BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I once had the pleasure of cycling the Shimanami Kaido in Japan, a bike route that connects the islands of Honshu and Shikoku, hopping between all these minor islands on the way over suspension bridges carrying the main highway.

The bike lane is protected the whole time. In one case, the bike route is actually below the deck of the bridge, and you're on a fenced-in catwalk hundreds of feet over the channel between the islands. Views for miles over Osaka bay.

Honestly, when I look back at my life, it's probably my favorite thing I've ever done. If only the U.S. invested in bike infrastructure like that.

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[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 54 points 4 days ago (1 children)

My car doesn't create congestion. It's everyone else's that's the problem.

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[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago

What it wrong with that guy? Did a bike fuck his wife or something?

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 110 points 5 days ago (2 children)

If you're stuck in traffic, you ARE the traffic.

[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 5 days ago (7 children)

"Hi boss, I'll be a bit late into work. I am traffic."

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[–] formergijoe@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

"No one in New York drove. There was too much traffic." -Phillip J. Fry

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 54 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It amazes me that this country literally has state borders built around rail systems, a huge dependence on rail for shipping, but decided to just pave over trolley rails, and jack prices of train transit to thousands of dollars for just a few hundred miles. Then the government forces us to pay shittons of money into our vehicles in taxes, insurance, etc without regulating the private companies that we're forced to pay. Meanwhile other countries have super fast trains to travel, subsidized with tax money, and travel seems to be more efficient.

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[–] aaron@infosec.pub 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I'd say he's right. In a way. Cars don't create congestion, they are congestion.

Fine. And with this realisation let's end the phrase "I'm stuck in traffic". Cars aren't stuck in traffic, they are traffic.

Every bike on the road is one less car.

Other than that this guy seriously needs to get out into the fresh air and spend sometime around people (if it is a guy, it's overwhelmingly most likely a bot and so a genuinely harmful thing to engage with, get angry about, republish here, or do anything with other than ignore).

Social media is just getting worse, and although there is much to like about defederation, a lot of the content here is not healthy.

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[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 55 points 5 days ago (2 children)
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[–] mcv@lemm.ee 67 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Congestion is literally made out of cars. Without cars, there would be no congestion.

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[–] Omega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 52 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Communism is when you don't like cars. Apparently.

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[–] Yermaw@lemm.ee 76 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I'm stuck on this rock with people like that. The worst part is they speak with such confidence and authority that their opinions will carry more weight than mine in the real world.

I despair.

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[–] SleepyBear@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Reminds me of a quote "Every single drop of water felt it could not be to blame for causing the tidal wave/flood" Me remembering it is a little rough, but the concept stays the same lol.

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[–] SnarkoPolo@lemm.ee 38 points 4 days ago

A MAGA-before-there-was-MAGA family member of mine actually used to say "If we didn't have these big slow buses on the streets, and commuter trains blocking the rail crossings, we wouldn't have a traffic problem."

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

The Soviet Union is long gone. Communist should no longer be a derisive and should sound like a 20th century cliché in 2025.

I wonder (can't confirm) if the evergreen state of communist or socialist as derision is due to the far right propaganda industrial complex still pushing (hard) that anything that isn't capitalism is a moral wrong.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

Fix and expand the US public transportation system. Building infrastructure for automobiles is fucking backwards.

[–] Pnut@lemm.ee 40 points 5 days ago (10 children)

As a cyclist I've noticed a, harshness, recently. In Ontario our premier did a distraction campaign where he villanised bike lanes. Turns out he was talking about a couple of specific ones but all of the sudden, after biking in town for years. People nearly hit me. There is no Lee way any more. I've been swiped by mirrors and pickup trucks try to roll coal on me (pretty sure you little dicks need a diesel and your just fucking up your engines for nothing) because I like a bike ride on a sunny day. Or want to stay in shape. Or need to get to work. It really does feel like "get a haircut and drive an f150!!!" around here and that wasn't always the case.

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[–] callyral@pawb.social 6 points 3 days ago

"Ants don't *create* ant colonies."

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 36 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Higher speeds do the opposite for congestion than what you'd think. If everyone and their mum wants to drive on the same stretch of highway at 5pm sharp, there's not enough space - at speed.

Obviously, everyone fits when standing still. The amount of asphalt is immense.

Reducing the speed limit from 120kph to 80 will allow 50% more cars to fit on the same stretch of road, thereby reducing stop and go, and not really impacting your average speed; you'd be stopping and going during rush hour, anyway. But now traffic flows, which is safer and easier to follow.

Why? Because - let's assume safe driving - every car has two seconds of safety distance to the car in front. Those two seconds remain two seconds, but that means the distances you need are twice as large with 120kph than with 60kph. Your car length doesn't even really matter, two seconds at 120kph are ~67m. So the road will always transport 1 car every two seconds per lane, no matter the speed.

You can either rage in a congestion, not knowing if farther up someone has caused a crash and completely blocked everything, or drive slower but steadily. The throughput of the road is the same.

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[–] flandish@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

communism is when bike lanes.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 46 points 5 days ago (6 children)

"Cars don't create congestion; People in cars create congestion!"

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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 24 points 4 days ago

It's true, before we started creating cycling facilities there was no such thing as congestion or pollution /s

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago

Water falling from clouds doesn’t mean it’s raining.

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Well he's right. Cars don't create congestion, in the same way that raindrops don't create floods. Cars ARE congestion.

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