Communism is when you don't like cars. Apparently.

A MAGA-before-there-was-MAGA family member of mine actually used to say "If we didn't have these big slow buses on the streets, and commuter trains blocking the rail crossings, we wouldn't have a traffic problem."

Congestion is literally made out of cars. Without cars, there would be no congestion.

Shit, look at LA.

I'm stuck on this rock with people like that. The worst part is they speak with such confidence and authority that their opinions will carry more weight than mine in the real world.

I despair.

Water falling from clouds doesn’t mean it’s raining.

This is the same logic that says the only answer to gun violence is more guns

It's true, before we started creating cycling facilities there was no such thing as congestion or pollution /s

As a cyclist I've noticed a, harshness, recently. In Ontario our premier did a distraction campaign where he villanised bike lanes. Turns out he was talking about a couple of specific ones but all of the sudden, after biking in town for years. People nearly hit me. There is no Lee way any more. I've been swiped by mirrors and pickup trucks try to roll coal on me (pretty sure you little dicks need a diesel and your just fucking up your engines for nothing) because I like a bike ride on a sunny day. Or want to stay in shape. Or need to get to work. It really does feel like "get a haircut and drive an f150!!!" around here and that wasn't always the case.

Higher speeds do the opposite for congestion than what you'd think. If everyone and their mum wants to drive on the same stretch of highway at 5pm sharp, there's not enough space - at speed.

Obviously, everyone fits when standing still. The amount of asphalt is immense.

Reducing the speed limit from 120kph to 80 will allow 50% more cars to fit on the same stretch of road, thereby reducing stop and go, and not really impacting your average speed; you'd be stopping and going during rush hour, anyway. But now traffic flows, which is safer and easier to follow.

Why? Because - let's assume safe driving - every car has two seconds of safety distance to the car in front. Those two seconds remain two seconds, but that means the distances you need are twice as large with 120kph than with 60kph. Your car length doesn't even really matter, two seconds at 120kph are ~67m. So the road will always transport 1 car every two seconds per lane, no matter the speed.

You can either rage in a congestion, not knowing if farther up someone has caused a crash and completely blocked everything, or drive slower but steadily. The throughput of the road is the same.

Y'all are both stupid. Society creates congestion in car-transportation and on-foot transportation. Mass transportation is just more efficient in certain societal configurations and needs. There will still be trucks and deliveries of all kinds and workers and shit that need to use cars for their jobs to be efficient.

A lot of people could use mass transportation or try to reduce the distance they need to travel, but all of this petty back and forth is fucking stupid and worthless if it remains petty and shallow, and continues to avoid the real topic, which is not cars, which are just tools that allow an individual a range of autonomy that is faster and further in certain societal configurations.

So, the issue should be societal configurations (and human values), not cars.

Using cars is such an unproductive wedge issue that just irritates everybody who can see the bigger issues. It's noble, but amounts to basically greenwash trolling to anybody outside of your community (fuckcars). It's a hyperfixation on a ultra specific, single-solution to an ultra broad collection of societal efficiency and random other related topics that feels like some of you are just misplacing personal childhood trauma, and really need therapy, or you just enjoy being irritating, thus my belief that some of this really is just greentrolling, which, if you really wanted to fix stuff, there are better ways of doing it.

To be absolutely transparent, I don't entirely dislike y'all's existence, in fact, I quite appreciate it in many ways. But, everytime I see one of your posts or memes, I just kinda.... Tsk. And it irritates me a little bit, I can't upvote it, and I think I've finally been able to put that irritation into words, and feel compelled to voice my opinion.

So, opinion voiced, carry on /rant

Well he's right. Cars don't create congestion, in the same way that raindrops don't create floods. Cars ARE congestion.

Isaiah is kinda stupid, isn't he?

"Cars don't create congestion; People in cars create congestion!"

this Chud is like proven to be wrong by math and science so we could just tell him that facts don't care about his feelings

Yeah, it's all those cyclists that you're stuck in traffic with when there's a traffic jam.