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I’m curious about what you think on how it will affect the Linux community and distros (especially RHEL based distros like Fedora or Rocky).

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[–] mirror_slap@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I was there at nearly the beginning with Redhat 1 and kernel series 1.1.x and 1.2.x series. Redhat died when IBM bought them. My company has finally completely moved away - I pushed very strongly to dump RHAT - all Debian and FreeBSD now.

[–] digdilem@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

As someone who admins around 200 Rocky 8/9 and Centos 7 servers, this is a little concerning.

But I have a lot of faith in Rocky and Alma, who are reportedly working together, in coming up with a solution to ensure they continue getting security fixes and updates.

Redhat are steadily turning into every bit as anti-competitive and, well, evil, as Oracle used to be. It's a shame as they used to do a lot for the FOSS world. Now they seem content to profit from it and give nothing back.

[–] beefcat@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

anti-competitive and, well, evil, as Oracle used to be.

Used to be?

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[–] emr@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Have they given a reason? The blog post doesn't list one.

[–] philluminati@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Reduce effort. They say there’s duplication between hosting RHEL and Centos, so they’ll just do Centos. Since Redhat becomes Centos anyway it seems neither here nor there.

[–] fbievan@lemmy.fbievan.live 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Ehh, well it's something interesting. I've never really ever used RHEL myself on any of my servers. I do know some people that might be impacted.

[–] fbievan@lemmy.fbievan.live 1 points 2 years ago

it's unfortunate

[–] thatonedude1210@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Big Blue asserting their dominance. Unfortunately at the cost of some very fantastic community projects.

[–] MDKAOD@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] ironsoap@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

Great response to the discussion, as this 2012 article lays our their path many years ago. Lots of very economically valid reasons for changing, and it seems to have worked even if it is a shame to see. It makes me wonder if the changing economy is going to put more pressure on other favorites to monitize or fail. I say this given that volunteers are showing a decline so without people spending free time, then open-source software will face further challenges.

I don't want to digress too much, but I can't help but juxtapose the slow change and monetization RH has done very well as compared to the idiocy that Reddit is doing.

[–] humdrumgentleman@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

As a strictly desktop/personal Linux user, could someone enlighten me: What advantage (if any) does RHEL have over Ubuntu Pro at this point?

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[–] donnnnnb@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The discussion on the LWN post gives some insight into why this is probably happening. Most likely due to Rocky/Alma not contributing upstream while benefiting from Red Hat's work.

[–] promitheas@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 2 years ago

I.e. the reality of linux since its inception?

[–] doophy@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Interestingly, I've been trying to push my HPC customers towards SLES and Ubuntu LTS. SLES has better extended support for minor releases (that doesn't cost an arm and a leg), and Ubuntu's LTS... for obvious reasons.

[–] anders@rytter.me 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@BuboScandiacus Hm. As far as I know it's not Fedora which is based on RHEL but rather RHEL which is based on Fedora?

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