OP, you reading this wrong on many levels, review the comments and provide proper post on
!yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com
so the community can provide proper feed back if mod is in fact power tripping.
this post was submitted on 03 Jun 2025
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It's just Leni trolling under an alt
god damn it...
nice troll leni!
OP has very little understanding of the fediverse given they don't know how bans work and appears to dislike the fediverse quite a lot given their other post and this one as well.
Dbzer0 is explicitly anti-copyright. It's in the sidebar and when you sign up.
It was a mod that did it, not an admin.
It was a community, not the entire site.
Jesus Christ, reading is a thing.
Jesus Christ, reading is a thing.
Ah, but reading comprehension sadly, is not.
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A - That was a mod, not an admin. We didn't do shit.
B - What the hell are you even trying to do, anymore? like genuinely, i have no idea what you're trying to aim for.
edit: Also fuck copyright.
Yeah, I thought I recognised OP from somewhere, and not in a good way.
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TLDR: OP has no idea the difference between comms and instances, or what the fediverse actually is, and thinks dumbasses trolling AI art comms are doing nothing wrong.
It really does seem like the entire concept of decentralized, ground up, mutually interconnected systems... is just actually incomprehensible to a certain number of people.
Things can be organized in a complex manner, but also not centralized with a god king or round table of mob bosses at the top of everything?
Unpossible!!!
I want to talk to the manager's manager!
I mean, there are admins and mods, don't oversell it. ^^' But also I am honestly lost on how do you manage to think of hundreds of interconnected forums basically as one thing.
Its true, there will probably always be admins and mods, to some extent... but like on the dbzer0 instance, they're kind of big into having some open, democratic input back toward the behavior of mods and admins... but yeah I wouldn't say that level of attempting to actually be accountable is common on lemmy in general, so I am overselling it a bit, lol.
At the same time, I stand by the idea that many people just actually cannot comprehend the concept of a non rigid, non totally top down, centralized hierarchy, the concept is not mentally parseable for them.
Which is funny, because even in the most commonly cited examples of such things, like say a military command structure... yeah turns out if you dive into one of those, you often find that its more effective and efficient to give individual units within the larger hierarchy a good deal more leeway and independent decision making autonomy, than it is to keep everything strictly top down... because such a structure can respond better and more quickly when shit goes awry, makes a leadership decapitation strike less devastating, etc etc.
I mean, imma be honest. Hierarchy helps. You need someone up there to see the bigger picture. But you also need enough horizontal movement to be able to execute the piece of it that falls to you.
I am gonna be blunt also, I am one of people who cannot graps actually horizontal structure on bigger tasks etc. I do however get it on smaller scale and with competent people, it's probably hella more efficient. For example thanks to not overloading someone "up there" with decisions and responsibilities.
Oh I completely agree that certain kinds and degrees of hierarchy are or can be more efficient than... absolutely none.
It very much depends on what the organization is attempting to achieve, what its scope and size are.
Generally speaking, you can't really achieve too many complex, specific goals... without some manner of organizing your endeavor.
It sounds like, to me at least, you actually do grasp this better than you think you do, realizing that this is actually a complex topic with many potential variables at play.
You wanna learn a martial art?
How to shoot a gun?
Yeah, a fairly strict, top down, rigid hierarchy with strict rules probably makes more sense, because the potential downsides of 'crowd sourcing' the learning experience could be literally fatal, and these things are usually done at the scale of 5, 10, 20 people in a class.
But, if you scale that exact same structure all the way up to an entire military, you end up with WW1 style shit where entire divisions are thrown into advancing through a friendly artilery barrage due to poor timing or a delayed message, the overall commander being overwhelmed, the rigidity of strict top down adherence to all orders from superiors and fear of insubordination leading to massive catastrophic self inflicted losses.
Conversely, a very, very poorly coordinated set of guerrilla warfare style, totally autonomous allied fighting forces... might accidentally end up ambusing each other, or each cell decides to attack the same percieved enemy vulnerability at the same time, and then all point fingers at each other when they realize no one is now defending some critical asset or area, which has now been captured or destroyed.
For a business endeavor... very similar dynamics can play out.
Maybe far too much management leads to nothing actually getting done, or even worse, dramaticly expensive projects that end up being a barely functional mess, because everyone is spending more time in meetings than working, constantly having their work and project scope changed, altered, amended...
Or maybe there is too little direction, and everyone is doing neat cool pet projects, but the critical underlying business processes are being neglected or overwhelmed.
It is always a balancing act.
If you have a more lateral, more horizontal org structure... those individual units or components need to be more independently capable, which can be more costly than a more streamlined structure, but it can also be more resilient and flexible overall.
And there probably does still need to be some kind of mechanism for coordinating the overall actions of the units/components.
You've also got the whole dynamic of... does your org structure actually promote people to positions of more relative responsibility and power... via merit and actual competency?... or does it just reward sycophantic ass kissers, or self serving, machiavellian behind the scenes manipulators?
Or, if you have a more diffuse, flat, democratic 'power structure'... does it spend all of its time debating things and not actually doing anything? or does it have some method of internally regulating that problem?
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I mean, it's called the fediverse. That alone should cue OP that it's not a single site.
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~~DBZer0~~ Two communities in dBZer0 have begun banning people simply for ~~believing in~~ posting apologia for the concept of copyright.
Which, without further context, is still a bit of an overreach IMO, but nowhere near as extreme as your title suggests.
That's like banning people for following the law. That is banning people for following the law.
Lol fuck the law. I wipe my ass with the law. Banning people for following the law is turbo-based when the law is turbo garbage. Again, I don't think that simply apologizing for copyright warrants a ban without further context, but "I was banned for following the law" is a terrible argument and I had to speak out about it.
Are we forgetting a large portion of the fediverse's demographics consist of artists trying to make a damn living?
I was a music producer before going into engineering and I've always been against copyright lol. Copyright is a terrible minefield for doing work in my craft.
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Without knowing the context of those bans, it's kinda hard to say whether your take of them being "simply for believing in the concept of copyright" is actually anywhere close to reality or not.
Based on past experience of people posting hyperbolic claims about "instance X banning people for Y", it's never actually about Y.
Like redditors getting banned from dozens of communities for “literally no reason.”
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This doesn't look like it has anything to do with what you are claiming, being banned for 'believing in copyright'.
It looks like people going to comms specifically set up to share AI generated images, and banning people for bitching about how AI image gen involves disrespect of copyright.
I am no fan of AI gen imagery in about 99.9% of scenarios you'll actually encounter it or hear about it in.
... So I just blocked these communities that are all about that, because they do not interest me, and do not interact with them.
... You can also see that these are comm specific bans, not instance wide bans, as say .world did initially, and then rolled back when people were cheering the UHC CEO getting assasinated.
Looking into a few of these users that have been recently banned, from the modlogs on dbzero... it seems like these users have been getting various comments deleted, with mod explanations why, for days or weeks now, and whoever is modding these StableDiffusion comms just decided to ban them.
Here's the actual dbzero modlogs:
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/modlog
... Also as far as you being a worry wort about 'all of lemmy being banned'... pretty sure that's not possible, the whole point of a federated structure like lemmy is that different instances both host and police themselves.
Could a single instance get taken out? Sure. ... All of them? Seems unlikely without a massive coordinated effort, and afaik, db0 (the instance creator) is pretty tech savvy and has a reasonably secure hosting setup.
Disclaimer: I am neither a dbzero admin nor mod, just a member of the instance.
Check the Dbzer0 sidebar. The instance is literally explicitly anti-copyright.
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You can believe in whatever you want in other comms, that have different policy. Nothing will happen with fediverse if you won't or will support copyright.
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