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[–] andybytes@programming.dev -2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Uno beeeoootttttchhhh. You know, everything's consolidating. There are very few mid-sized companies anymore. It's funny seeing the managerial class dig their own grave. Everybody thinks everybody's gonna leave everyone with the bag. Justice is always served. Don't have kids.

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 235 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Comfort hunter is a very snobbish and entitled way to refer to someone offering their time and effort to you.

And wait, was the 2nd post 'liked' by the first poster?

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 56 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That means that the HR account thinks what the employee account wrote is bad, too. Both posts are bad extremes.

As an employee, if i find a prospective colleague who doesn’t ask about what they’re supposed to be doing at all, I’d be wary of them, too.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 53 points 1 week ago (4 children)

To many people nowadays, the actual job itself doesn't matter, it's the fact that it's a job and it pays.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 4 points 6 days ago
[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

IMHO, in Software Development it's a good idea for a candidate to ask about the project, if only because any good professional would want to know if they're a good fit or not.

Mind you, that makes sense in the Technical interview rather than with HR - no point in asking about what are the practical professional details of the work you will be doing from a person who doesn't really have a clue (the HR person) when you know you will be facing an actual professional peer in a technical interview who knows the work that needs to be done in your terms and with the level of detail and understanding only domain professionals have.

In my experience doing the Technical Interview side of things (and most of my career I was a Contractor - so a Freelancer - which is hardly a "company man" with a rosy view of my relationship to them or somebody who thinks people work for fun), people who don't ask about the project during the Technical Interview tend to as the interview proceeds end up get revealed as technically weak: an experienced "Engineer" would want to make sure they're well matched to the kind of work they're be doing (as well as, in my experience from the other side of the interviewing table, spot the messy fucked up situations before you take the contract so that if you can avoid ending in such disfunctional environments).

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 64 points 1 week ago

Not even a new thing either. Barely any jobs are done because people want to do specific types of work, and those jobs tend to be severely underpaid (teaching, social services).

People didn't flock to factories in the 60s and 70s because they wanted to work in a factory, they wanted the pay and benefits. Same for office work today.

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[–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Let us not forget that there is not a single employer on the planet who would willingly hire and pay someone more for their time than that person's time is worth. Each employee of a company is making that company money. They deserve comfort because they are the company.

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 61 points 1 week ago (1 children)

real nObOdY wAnTs To WoRk vibes...

also, if a candidate is having to ask what you're bringing to the table as an employer at their own job interview because you couldn't be up-front enough about it to post it on the hiring page, then that's already enough of a red flag that i already closed the tab

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (3 children)

There are more things you could ask about even if the job description is good, though.

As a software engineer I like to ask questions about the team dynamic. I'm not interested in working with a bunch of bros, so having some diversity in the team is good.

[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I dont know. Maybe ive been unlucky but "diversity" has meant a lot of people with very different personalities, which has meant that people dont become friends. Has it meant something different to you? Maybe for you its the other way, and you dont have anything incommon with the typical worker (whatever bro means in this context, maybe males and you are female?) , so you welcome more people like yourself.

Doesnt everyone actually want collegues that are as close to yourself in personality as possible so you feel you have common ground?

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

I'm a straight white dude who goes to work to do work, not to find someone to party with. The common ground is having the same job.

My current team has the following composition:

  • Two straight white guys in their 40s, one of whom is an immigrant
  • One gay white guy in his 30s
  • One straight Indian guy in his 50s
  • One straight Indian woman in her 20s
  • One straight black guy in his 20s

We all get along just fine. Sometimes I learn something new about a different culture or lifestyle.

Not all aspects of diversity are equally important. I've been in teams before where everyone else was Argentinian. I've had teams where everyone else was Indian. I've had teams where we were all straight white dudes. They were all fine.

The most important part of diversity for me is a nice spread in experience level, which usually means a spread in age. I like training people who are more junior than me, but I also like someone more senior to learn from. Having someone more senior than me also prevents me from gliding into a role where I only train people or review their work, which I'm not personally interested in.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago

Asking questions about the team and the work is how one detects and avoid shitty environments.

[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Very true. Good coworkers can make work a lot more bearable.

Looking a bit into the company's business can help, too. If they do something vaguely interesting that can be a bonus. I ignored that once in favor of perks and that got me into the complete disaster area that is fintech. Don't make the same mistake.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 23 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If HR isn't asking candidates about themselves as a person, or is only asking generic "Tell me about yourself" kinds of questions, then **they are doing it wrong. **

On the other side if a candidate doesn't have any questions about their future work environment, not just the role they applied for, then they too are doing it wrong. A candidate should care about whether they would fit into an environment / culture.

At its core employment is a relationship and both sides should treat it that way.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Sure, but most of the time you don't have a lot of time to shop around for a job you like. You have to pay rent and "we didn't vibe well" is not an acceptable reason to give your dependents when they ask why you didn't take a job and are now being evicted.

[–] iamdefinitelyoverthirteen@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That's different. That's when you go to a temp agency until you find something better.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

In many cases there isn't something better anywhere near where you live.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yeah, some of the bandwagonny replies I'm seeing in this thread do not make their posters sound like someone you'd want to spend your working life sat next to.

You don't have to show interest in the company to help the CEO get richer, but you should probably show an interest in the company because it's where you're going to be spending 1/3rd of your entire waking hours from now on, and you're going to have a fucking miserable time of it if you've already decided to mentally check out before you've even got to the interview. Have some self-respect.

[–] Sc00ter@lemm.ee 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Not in HR, but am involved in the hiring process. We are not allowed to ask personal questions. Cant talk about family or personal background. If i ask a question about someones family and they tell me they have 5 kids, and they dont get the job because we found a better candidate, they have a clear and obvious path to file a discrimination case.

"I didnt get hired because they knew i had 5 kids and they assumed I wouldn't be able to dedicate time to the company yada yada."

" i told them that my religion was xyz and they knew my religious holidays dont align with their holiday schedule and they didnt hire me because they didnt want to make new policy to allow me my time and give me my protected right to religion"

Its just easier to not

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

What is this for, absolute bullshit? You want to find somebody who fits in the team, that's exactly why you want to get to know them during the hiring process. It's the same BS as that people shouldn't have pictures on their resume in the US. It's not like you can see based on first name and lastname(s) or if they even have second,. third, fourth etc names where the person generally has roots in a lot of cases. If you want to discriminate you can based on name as well.

Edit: Companies shouldn't discriminate, but not adding certain info to your resume or not asking certain questions isn't going to help against discrmination.

[–] Sc00ter@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago

Just to be clear, i didnt say it was to prevent discrimination, i said it was to prevent a credible discrimination lawsuit

[–] TheOneAndOnlyDeath@feddit.nl 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Just curious, but doesn't this mean that this system is easy to bypass? Just because you don't ask about their family doesn't mean they are not going to share it. Just saying something like "enjoying the summer so far?" As a conversation starter could trigger a "oh yeah, spending it with my 5 kids" response.

And someone who already knows that a discrimination case could be made can just easily put his religion or family or whatever into whatever response they feel like even if it doesn't make sense for the question.

It just seems easy too easy for someone to be able to do this just because they said something. Or does it only apply if you ask?

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So can we just be honest and agree to coexist in a state of mutually despising each other?

HR: I'm sorry, that's not our policy.

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