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we should probably invest in making sure people have affordable housing, food, and healthcare before worrying about militarising space.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

Don't buy into the grifts. Dismantle them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goh2x_G0ct4

[–] hexonxonx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Starlink should be globalized. A planet only needs one low-altitude orbiting communications network. Better to standardize the technology and platform and let them contribute to one system than to have a dozen identical competing systems crashing into each other and fucking things up for everyone.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 47 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Nasa with less risk aversion. If a Nasa rocket blows up that's big news. If a Space X rocket blows up, that's a Tuesday.

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[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago (5 children)

You have NASA FFS. Just fund it.

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[–] RhondaSandTits@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Don't give bail-outs to billionaires.

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 15 points 5 days ago

I disagree.

  1. You already have a government space agency. Maybe give them more funding so they don't have to rely on space-x to get their stuff into orbit?

  2. There's a national telecom network already in place. It at least has the potential to be faster and more reliable, if it isn't already... At least compared to low earth orbit satellite coverage.

There's no good reason to continue providing Elon or his companies with any government handouts. Pull that funding and give it to.... I dunno, students who have more debt than homeowners with a mortgage..... NASA.... Literally anything that helps people?

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 34 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Arrest Musk on violation of controlled substances acts, file immigration violation charges, invalidate his ownership shares due to securities fraud, as he falsified education and naturalization forms.

Or just emminent domain the shit. The Law is just made up right now.

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No, we should regain control of our nation from fascists (this does not mean just replace the President), then nationalize SpaceX and Starlink, and make telecoms public utilities.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 22 points 6 days ago (2 children)

If not Musk should be forced from his roles in these companies. You cannot be a defense contractor and do ketamine.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

how can you trust a board that trusts such incompetence, for DOD projects no less?

failure up and down.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

DOD is also responsible for what they accept.

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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I've been saying this for years. the footprint that spaceX represents in national launch authority is out of whack to say the least.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (14 children)

The only reason SpaceX exists is because Boeing and Lockheed managed to compete so badly the only solution was to merge their launch businesses.

So we had one launch company, then spaceX made it two providers, now its back to one because B-mart is using antiquated launch systems (single use).

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[–] TheBannedLemming@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I am not saying that I don't agree with you. But this country is still not even close to considering nationalizing its own telecommunication infrastructure. Much less a privately held space company and a service of communication satellites. A large chunk of America believes that a for-profit business model for every good and service possible in life is the best course of action.

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[–] Knightfox@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

A lot of people are calling this a bailout for Elon, but in reality it would be a seizure. Elon doesn't want to let go of Starlink and the US likely wouldn't pay him what it's worth to take it over.

What people seem to be missing is the precedent this would set. It's all well and good when we empower the office of the president to seize a private company we don't like, but after we give them that power what's to stop them from seizing other businesses?

XYZ company refuses to get rid of their DEI policy because the shareholders voted to keep it? Well now the orange man can seize it.

Let's not forget that previously it took 2/3rd majority to confirm presidential appointments, but the Senate under Obama decided to change that rule to 50% to get past Republican objections. The result of this is all these shit appointments Trump has passed with 51% of the Senate, none of them would have gotten by if the Democrats hadn't made a precedent for changing the rules.

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[–] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Best time would've been when he pulled that stunt in Ukraine, second best time is now

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[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (11 children)

When's the last time the US nationalised something?

[–] PumpUpTheJam@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago

Racism. 1776.

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[–] gamer@lemm.ee 7 points 6 days ago

Throw Musk in prison for his many documented crimes, but don't support this kind of dictator shit.

There's already NASA which gets piss poor funding iirc

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