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Brett Wilkins Jun 16, 2025

Flight-tracking websites showed dozens of Air Force aerial refueling planes departing from military bases in the United States and heading to Europe on Sunday, fueling speculation of direct U.S. involvement in the widening Israeli-Iranian war.

Military-focused news sites reported that around 30 U.S. Air Force KC-135R and KC-46A tankers were identified by flight-tracking software in what The Times of Israelcalled an "unprecedented mass deployment" to Europe.

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 261 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (17 children)

We just want fucking healthcare and affordable housing.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 113 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry, best I can do is 2 trillion more for Boeing, Raytheon, Lockheed Martin and the like. They're desperate man, they haven't had a war for like 12 minutes, they need to be fed.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 19 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Zomg, Boeing planes being flown above enemy territory as surprise kamikazes (surprise to the pilots & crew).

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 hours ago

We just want fucking healthcare and affordable housing.

Trumps response is to offer army barracks and MREs, in exchange for you becoming cannon fodder in his delusional war games.

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[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 23 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (3 children)

Trump is after Iran's eggs, I guess. He promised the people of the US lower egg prices, he will get them from Iran.

How can people in the US be okay with this? Their quality of life has only decreased since Bush 2 started his wars of terror. A propagandized population driven to hate others and rally behind the president.

As unlikely as it may be, I hope the US loses quickly and decisively against Iran. Not in 20 years from now like in Afghanistan, but soon. I don't know what cards Iran has, what leverage they may have, but I hope they have something that enables them to inflict pain.

[–] Barberserk@lemmy.world 11 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Iran is defending, that's why the americans cannnot win this war. They don't have enough bombs to kill every iranian from the sky.

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 36 points 19 hours ago
[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 86 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (11 children)

I didn't call it, but there's nothing quite like a war to distract the population from rampant decline at home.

This one is weird though, Iran is allied with Russia. Israel is allied with the US. Historically, this made sense.

But Trump and Putin playing war together would benefit both of them. It allows Putin to pull out of Ukraine because "Iran provided us much help and they need us now." And it allows Russia to maintain the war economy. It benefits Trump because he wants to play war.

Neither leader would have any actual skin in the game, it's just people's lives that would never contribute in another meaningful way to their power.

I don't like this. This is feeling more 1984 than 1984.

Edit: I like this even worse after I read the specifics of the KC-135R and KC-46A. Each can carry about 200,000 lbs of additional fuel. A single F-15E can hold 13,000 lbs internally. 30 KC-135Rs can refuel an entire F-15E 460 times. Israel has 7 KC-130H (60,000lbs) and 7 Boeing 707s (which is what the KC-135 was based on). This isn't just escalation, this is staging for invasion.

[–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

Not to mention that this gives him a legitimate reason to invoke the alien enemies act, not that he needed them in the first place, but it will tie up the courts even further.

[–] Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca 6 points 15 hours ago

Ukraine could throw a wrench in their plans by simply not accepting whatever Putin offers. He's then left with "stay out of it and stay in Ukraine" or "join Trump and risk Ukraine flanking into Russian territory"

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 17 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Before COVID, 2020 started off with Trump drone striking a foreign diplomat and nearly starting WW3.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 hours ago

Come on now, you don't need to invoke some BlueAnon conspiracy to explain why the US would attack Iran; it's been champing at the bit to do so for decades.

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[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 30 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

The silver lining is that this will accelerate the decline of the US Empire which in turn will weaken Israel. Although this will be too late for the millions who have been or are still to be killed because of these psychopathic regimes.

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[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 188 points 1 day ago (26 children)

God I hate Republicans.

Trump is absolute garbage on every single scale and stat, but it's the republican voters who got us here. Fuck every republican voter.

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[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 74 points 1 day ago (10 children)

I’d just like to take this opportunity to say “fuck you” to all the service people flying these planes, planning the logistics, and otherwise operating at the behest of our sadistic federal government. Sure, the civilian leadership is ultimately at fault here, but y’all are humans with agency. I’m no longer carving out culpability from these goddamn people anymore. Fuck you terrorists. If we escalate yet another war, I’ll plan to spit on you when you arrive back broken and dead. Bring on the downvotes.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 38 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

It’s been decades that our military has been nothing but an imperialist boot. There is no moral ground to stand on in signing up. Work fast food.

[–] SelfHigh5@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

But fast food won’t guarantee housing or healthcare. Military recruitment preys on those with nowhere else to go.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

“Housing.” As in a cot to sleep on? You can get the same at a homeless shelter or by landing yourself in jail.

“Healthcare.” Hm yes the military has a great reputation for taking care of the folks maimed in the line of duty after they’ve sent them into harm’s way. Don’t join the army for your health, y’all!

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[–] eagleeyedtiger@lemmy.nz 55 points 23 hours ago (16 children)

Anyone else get the feeling WW3 has already started but we just haven't realised it yet?

[–] match@pawb.social 47 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

Imagine starting WW3 the weekend after 3% of your population came out to protest for other reasons. Your war weariness debuff will hit 100% in one turn.

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[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 25 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (5 children)

It's not a world war if it's not from the Austrian region of Germany, otherwise it's just sparkling aggression.

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[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 129 points 1 day ago (9 children)

So much for keeping the US out of war..

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 104 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I can't believe he'd just... Lie to us like we're a court, Congress or himself or something.

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[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 26 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I’m bringing peace to the Middle East! The peace president! 🫲🍊🫱

[–] Donjamos@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

USA bringing peace usually involves a lot of military airplanes so I don't see your point

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[–] wax@feddit.nu 26 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I wonder where we'd be today if Trump didn't pull out of the nuclear agreement with Iran. Might not have made a difference, who knows.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 25 points 22 hours ago

Israel would have scratched their butt, then made up another reason to bomb them.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 2 points 13 hours ago

I would still expect israel to attack iran. There is no way that the proxy war could last foverer

[–] belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

Where can one acquire an anti air missile?

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Aisle 23 at Home Depot, I think.

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