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[–] diealex@lemmy.world -2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

No. XMPP would be the best choice.

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[–] mio@lemmy.mio19.uk 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] tux0r@feddit.org -2 points 10 hours ago (2 children)
[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That blog post was my reason to double down on Matrix.

[–] tux0r@feddit.org 1 points 6 hours ago
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[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Nah, that would be Matrix, XMPP, DeltaChat or SimpleX

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[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 1 points 9 hours ago

i dont use whatsapp that much anyways

[–] Netrunner@programming.dev 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] DesolateMood@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 8 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

When you've been around a while, you begin to notice certain trends.

This particular trend being the one where the young, bright, ethical start-up turns into the sort of monster they originally rallied against, ensh*ttifying their product and spouting all the same reasons for it.

Signal is relatively young, bright and ethical. The cynic says "for now".

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

That's a risk, and a reason I'd like to see something federated succeed in this space. Unfortunately neither Matrix nor XMPP has managed to achieve quite the level of UX necessary for mainstream adoption, nor have the average person's tech skills and comfort level improved.

Signal's status as a well-funded nonprofit gives me hope that the current situation is reasonably stable.

[–] Quazatron@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

That's pretty much the only advantage of getting old.

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml -1 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Wasn't WhatsApp essentially built from Signal's base protocol anyway? Why use the meta clone when the original is right there?

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[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml -5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (5 children)

I don't use Signal because they don't release the app in F-Droid. Signal devs refuse to release the app outside of Google Play Store, which is very evil.

[–] L_Acacia@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 hours ago

I use obtainium to install it and it works flawlessly. The reason they don't publish it elsewhere is due to licences and push notifications iirc

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