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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago (6 children)

without congressional approval

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Congress decided quite a while ago that presidents are allowed to have a little war, as a treat, and only seek approval for it later. It's been this way at least since the '90s and likely before.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (3 children)

Nice, another one of those American values that we are all supposed to admire

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[–] bender223@lemmy.today 10 points 1 day ago

Netanyahu must have some really good kompromat on trump thru Epstein.

[–] HenchmanNumber3@lemm.ee 203 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"NOW IS THE TIME FOR PEACE," posts the man who just led us into war.

[–] huppakee@feddit.nl 61 points 2 days ago

Ikr, it's like puncing someone in the face and then telling that person now is the moment to stop fighting lol

[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I read a post that said he couldn’t go to war without a vote from congress, was that wrong?

Edit: I’m not a US citizen so I’m not sure

[–] 2piradians@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The constitution gives Congress the exclusive power to formally declare war.

That said, Congress hasn't declared war since 1942, yet we've obviously taken part in many wars since then.

Sadly there just hasn't been enough Congressional support to retaliate against a president for jumping to military action without authorization. And it doesn't help that the average American doesn't know that the president is not allowed to just deploy troops at will (in most cases, Iran included).

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

If the president can do it without consequences, then he is allowed. Turns out words on paper mean nothing.

It's more complicated than it should be, only Congress can declare we are at war, however over the past 200 years they have passed laws allowing the president to do things before that vote out of a sense of being flexible and Congress being slow , and keep allowing more and more things, I think currently the president can do almost anything with the military so long as Congress leaders are told and they then can vote to stop it, instead of voting to approve it.

[–] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 18 points 2 days ago

Legally speaking that's correct. There was nothing legal about this, though.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago (30 children)

This is what you voted for protest-non-voters.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They're all patting themselves on the back right now claiming Harris would have done the same thing.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

That’s literally an upvoted comment here with the person “guaranteeing” it would be exactly the same

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 106 points 2 days ago (15 children)

Iran is going to close the Straight of Hormuz.

There goes the worlds economy.

25% of the worlds oil runs through there.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 55 points 2 days ago (4 children)

And then the Trump will invade Iran to open it citing it must remain open.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Shhhh! That's supposed to be a secret plan!

[–] shplane@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

No worries, I already read it from their Signal chat

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[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 42 points 2 days ago

*Bombs a peaceful country. “Now is the time for peace.” 🫲🍊🫱

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Now, when a terrorist attack occurs, he's fully justified in declaring martial law.

It's as good as over, folks. Checkmate.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

he doesn't even need that. he already does whatever he wants legal or not

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 56 points 2 days ago

That'll teach the Democrats for not embracing socialism.

[–] DeathCubeK@lemmy.ml 50 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Kamala did warn you Americans.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 49 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Given how Germany, France, the UK etc have all lined up behind Israel, towing the line that Israel has a right to defend itself, and even going as far as saying that Israel is doing our dirty work for us, I have very serious doubts that Harris would not have followed Israel down the warpath.

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[–] justmember88@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Wow, things just took a wild turn in the board game! Whether you’re on board with it or not, this is a game changer: it’s going to impact everything from oil and alliances to elections and the streets. Just wait and see the ripple effects unfold over the next 48 hours!

[–] Hikuro93@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Closeted men of war preaching about peace. Closeted gays fighting against gay rights. Judgemental/greedy/racist religious people putting themselves on a pedestal about how you should "take care of thy neighbor".

It's always the ones who preach the most, the same ones doing the exact opposite of what they preach. Always the ones bitching about the bad in the world actively hard at work making the world a shittier place.

Seriously, if Trump says the sky is blue I'll immediately look up just to check if it hasn't turned red/green/pink/whatever.

Be always wary of the ones telling you how to live, and watch out for their actions closely. There's no hate like the 'love' of these hypocrites.

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