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[–] RagingSnarkasm@lemmy.world 94 points 1 month ago (5 children)

The word you're looking for is "devolving".

[–] tresspass@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago

I prefer "enshitification"

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Evolving backwards would be returning to ergonomic UIs with clear HIG being followed, having a scriptable variant for every class of applications, and any piece of software, OS UI included, not acting as an advert. Contrasts and colors and bright pictures are not what I need to see while working. It's as if your screwdriver was built in the form of an alien fish dildo, and had a chain of ringing bells. Why is this bullshit considered normal and usual with computer interfaces, I dunno.

And a company's website is its interface to the world, for the user. Not its advert. They've already seen the advert or don't need it if they are on that website! They want to actually use it.

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the irony is that title was probably AI generated.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

He admitted that he had to use AI a little bit after a somewhat broken finger.

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

What? He kinda broke a finger and then suddenly needed to use AI? His one bad finger prevented him using the other 9? He couldn't speech-to-text it?

Or did AI break his finger to get him to make the video?!

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[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Doubt. If I can type with one hand while chatting with those hot women in my area, this guy can type with nine fingers.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That would make sense if evolution had a direction. But evolution can favor less complexity just as well as more: it depends on the selective pressures it's under. "Fittest" is not necessarily "best."

This applies metaphorically to marketed products as well as literally to biologiccal systems. It's not inevitable that the marketplace will deliver progress. You might never get that invisible handjob.

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[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago (6 children)

It's simple - if your product or platform uses dark patterns, I will not use it. I will even use an inferior platform or product in order to be free to choose how I use my software.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I will, if I have no other option. Say, finding a working VPN service in Russia ... sucks (mostly banned). I think I'll end up with a VDS and an https tunnel.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, I can't rent a Ukrainian VDS, it might even get me to jail.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But in general, I hope your leadership's assholes fester and they die in horrible pain

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago
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[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 48 points 1 month ago

"Looks like you’re trying to be productive. Let me correct that for you"

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Clippy didn’t hallucinate. I think Clippy wins

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 63 points 1 month ago (3 children)

"Looks like you're writing a letter"

No I'm not, fuck off Clippy.

Turns out we just hadn't coined the term for computer intelligence being wrong as hallucinating yet.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You know what, I think I remember that. You’re right. My bad

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Clippy still wins though because you could have him duck off.

[–] tjsauce@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

And he had bespoke animations that were kinda charming

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

and you could change him into something else. links the cat was mine.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 3 points 1 month ago

I think the cat used to be all over XP.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It's not evolving backwards. It's being carefully crafted to turn into exactly what corporations wanted from the beginning but couldn't do due to technical and legal limitations.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Add societal limitations as well. We used to relegate software to the dustbin when it sucked in the early days. Nowadays, people seem mostly fine being practically forced to use ever shittier products and services.

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's also devolving, having less features, being slower/less optimised and so on. Cramming "AI" into it isn't devolving, it's enshitification

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

You are mistaking the direction of evolution. Software started out with as much freedom as the hardware could afford.

In the 80s you ran your program in real mode (or whatever the equivalent mode was on your hardware). No kernel, no OS, nothing in the way. The software ran on bare metal with the ability to do literally anything the computer could.

In the 90s and early 2000s, safety features were introduced, but customizability was still king. Remember how you could accidentally remove some toolbar from Eclipse and never find the way to get it back? That kind of UI was considered normal back then.

You had stuff like the BlackBox system that allowed the user to customize the UI like a developer. The user could not only move buttons and other UI elements wherever they wanted, but they could also create their own and use scripting to make them do whatever they wanted.

Then came the iPhone and Windows 8, and from then on the target became simplification. The downside of the customizability of yesteryear was that things could get complicated and that most users didn't use or even want these systems. Getting back to the Eclipse example, it was incredibly common back then, that people accidentally closed part of the UI and never found a way to get it back. So that's when the minimalisation and "less is more" mentality came in. They moved everything that wasn't used all the time into submenus and to a certain extent, it kinda worked.

But of course, with MBAs being MBAs, stuff like adding AI buttons to force people to use the next big monetizable thing became more and more prevalent.

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[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So is my edc to match it lmao.

Phones are locking down and getting harder to get rom and root support and a lot of projects are either giving up or dying.

Welp! Back to the laptop I go! Been carrying it with me everywhere just like I did before I got a smartphone. The only duties my phone needs to do is make calls, answer SMS and RCS and tether.

[–] ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Could’ve said a version of this about every multi-function pocketable device ever made, but they’re still fun

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The concept of a desktop assistant has always been there.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And it's always been trash. That's how you know it will always be there in the future too.

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[–] renamon_silver@lemmy.wtf 11 points 1 month ago

"Maybe if we manipulate people enough, it will make us money"

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago

Exemplified by this being a rant in a video with sponsorships tacked on the description and comments. Probably in the video too, but obviously I'm not going to watch it.

[–] atlien51@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe we’ve been pushing way too hard, way too fast into the age of technology being integrated into our every waking moment, bros.

I’m ready to go back to like an iPhone 5 level of technology and Windows 7. Just wish it was realistic.

[–] Potatar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

24/7 connectivity was a mistake. I miss that brief window when we had cheap supercomputers in our pockets, but data was still expensive.

[–] atlien51@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don’t want internet to be expensive but like..I wish we’d go back to dumb phones and computers maybe. Kinda like an early 2000s vibe.

Cause if you look at 2025 vs 2000 or even 2005, we’re honestly insanely different in terms of technology in such a short span. Just feels like too much too fast imo. Like maybe we DON’T need technology incorporated into every aspect of our lives.

The scariest thing is - we’re from a generation where we remember a life before this. Gen Alpha and whatever comes after will only ever know an internet connected life. How do you explain this to someone like that?

[–] Potatar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't miss the price haha, I miss its implications: If you were outside, you were outside; and there was no email which could hopefully find you well.

[–] atlien51@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

🤣🤣 okay true

[–] mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

what did they do to ma boi Clippy

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