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This is a truly WTF moment about messed up responses to X11 session removal in Gnome.

2 weeks ago I published a blogpost about the upcoming plans of GNOME 49 and the eventual removal of the X11 session. Since then, instead of looking at feedback, bugs and issues related to the topic, we all collectively had to deal with the following, and I am not exaggerating one bit:

  • Fascists and Nazis
  • Wild Conspiracy Theories that make Qanon jealous
  • “Concerned” Trolling about the Accessibility of the Wayland session
  • A culture war where Wayland is Gay, and X11 is the glorious past they stole from you

In my wildest dreams I could have never made this shit up. You all need mandatory supervised access to the Internet from now on.

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[–] tfm@europe.pub 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The link is broken, unfortunately

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[–] RustyShackleford@programming.dev 10 points 5 days ago (10 children)

I use X11 over Wayland on KDE Neon for RustDesk compatibility. The Wayland support for that application is still in Beta from what I understand.

Are there other reasons why I should keep X11? I am on AMD Ryzen 9 5950X paired with a RTX 3090 FE on 570-open drivers, for reference.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 days ago

Krita ux crash when dragging layers or frames using tablet.

Um... That's literally it. They both work just fine so there's no difference.

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[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Now I hate Gnome

But:

  1. Harrassing the creators is cringe, even if they make (undeniably-very-competently-made-but-by-virtue-of-dumb-choices-rendered-into) bad computer programmes
  2. Wayland is good actually, Gnome or otherwise.
[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (15 children)

Gnome programs, and Gnome itself, is pretty great.

You don't have to shit on a project just because you don't use their stuff or like something else.

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