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[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 1 points 7 hours ago

Can you just use a vpn to listen to the radio? I listen to bbc every morning before work, I will not pay though

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A bizarre decision.

Every paywalled news site is a news site I don't read.

I mean, nobody likes adverts, but I think even fewer people like paying.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago

I don't like having to have one more login for something, it's more about that then the money even.

[–] whatevercomeon@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The UK obviously is no longer a superpower. But the BBC is the cornerstone of the UKs modern global soft power projection. Broadcasting it free projects the UK government’s voice around the world directly into homes, influencing world policy to their liking.

Putting a paywall in the US sends a message that they feel it is not needed or not effective in the US market.

It also mirrors what paid sport broadcasting in the UK has done. Paywall it for short term gain, at the expense of long term viewership growth. The UK is struggling.

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Paywall it for short term gain, at the expense of long term viewership growth.

Making a company worse for increased short term revenue, at the cost of customer retention, product quality, etc. causing increased turnover which further compounds all the other steps. Is a common issue among all modern companies.

In short, there was a shift in MBA education a while back that includes a bunch of lies-by-omission and misrepresented data. Meaning that the only thing on their mind when they graduate, is to please investors at any all costs, including company longevity.

[–] axus@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Geez, I feel slightly to blame for checking bbc.com a couple times a day and rejecting the cookies

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 52 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Given that I'm stateside, this makes me sad. But given that they are funded by UK taxpayers, this is probably the right move.

Of course, that's just one less outlet for USA citizens to get accurate journalism (better than here, anyway) about what's happening in our country. Hope Al Jazeera doesn't follow suit.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Although, you could also argue that those taxes pay for informing and influencing citizens of foreign nations.

America’s media ecosystem is dominated by Fox, Sinclair, and other state party media players. There is a strategic benefit to having a media outlet that doesn’t run through the state media filter.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is a very important point. There is a reason there is a "cultural victory" in the Civilization games and the UK is definitely ceding cultural influence with this move.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 1 day ago

To such an extent that I wonder if there is back-channel influence flowing out of the US pushing for this...

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or the reason why the US has had Radio Free Europe for decades.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I believe all such programs were defunded a few months ago...

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Their grants were cut by a Trump EO, and they’re suing to have them reinstated. They’re very much still around.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 1 points 10 hours ago

Glad they're still there - hope they're not working without pay anytime soon.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Guess the Tankies are loving Trump for that one.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 60 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Gotta get that TV loicense.

[–] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 22 points 2 days ago

I suppose the TV licence in the UK is a sort of paywall, even if it is made of swiss cheese and enforced by folk with all the legal standing of Larry the Head Mouser or whatever moggy it is now.

I pay it, but I'm loathed to now. Not because I watch any live TV or BBC programming, but because I use the BBC News site a metric fucktonne and I suppose I justify it to myself as funding the BBC News department rather than Graham Norton's salary.

Maybe I'll fuck it off though. I do fancy a letter war with Capita or whoever managed the enforcement these days.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As a Canadian, I'd be upset if we got paywalled. The BBC is where I go to for trusted news on international concerns.

Understandable, but I'd still be upset.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Could just VPN into the UK. Proton offers a free, no login required, VPN tier with several end points in the UK

[–] NameTaken@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It seems just for people in the US. So hopefully the rest of us will be fine.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

I love the US defaultism even when they’re talking about another country’s public news station

(edit: the title originally just said it was adding a paywall without mention of any country)

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It does actually seem like it's only the US for now

Unless I've misunderstood your comment

BBC article: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2vgkn7w10o

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

I asked OP to update the title in another comment which they did (and appreciate) but it made this comment of mine confusing 😅. The original title didn’t have any mention of which country. It just said they were adding a paywall

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[–] alexc@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (4 children)

And just at a time when the US really needs a decent news service…

I am sure this was discussed at the Starmer - Trump talks as a way to further isolate Americans from the truth.

I guess it’s just Al-Jazeera now…

[–] KumaSudosa 2 points 1 day ago

I'm (relatively) happy with Deutsche Welle (dw.com) and France24 as well

[–] tormeh@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Exactly this. Isn't the point of the BBC world service to communicate/propagandise the British view of what's happening in the world to other countries? Imagine Russia Today adding a paywall? It's counter to the entire point! I think you may be on to something about this being a concession to Trump.

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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] alexc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am guessing you’ve never watched (say) Fox News in the US?

I’m not saying the BBC is good per se. I’m saying it’s slightly more objective than the rest.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is news that’s way more well done than BBC, like the intercept, byline times, propublica etc

[–] alexc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Not arguing that. Of the broadcasters / big media types, I find the BBC usually one of the better ones. But then I get my news from a wide variety of sources. The Intercept is generally a very good addition to my daily intake.

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[–] obinice@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Makes sense, we pay our licence fee for our public service, why should people abroad get for free what we have to pay for?

I was happy with the current arrangement of adverts supporting the service use abroad, but if it has to migrate to a subscription model to meet modern demands then that's the way it is.

I wouldn't go to another country and ask them to make one of their government's national public services free for me to use, after all.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 24 points 2 days ago

The world service was always free because it’s a propaganda platform that promotes Britain and British values abroad. I guess they are content just to push Reform propaganda to a domestic audience from now on.

[–] ADTJ@feddit.uk 6 points 1 day ago

BBC shows ads on some foreign services, but not in the UK

[–] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (4 children)

Nah mate. Information is free the second it leaves its source. Any attempt to curtail it after then is just a cunt's trick.

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[–] Humanius@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So that sounds to me that Americans should use a VPN to pretend they are accessing the website from Europe

Seems like a high bar for checking the news. I'll just switch to a different news outlet.

Shame to further isolate the US towards the largely crappy intranational journalism options.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

BBC announced it’s introducing a paywall for consumers in the U.S

It seems like it’s only for the US? If that’s true can you update the title OP

[–] Pro@programming.dev 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (5 children)

They're not that great anyway. They're barely holding on to my personal list of reliable sources. If I really need something, there are other places to go. Good luck BBC.

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[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I know there’s rights issues and all but if they made a real BBC streaming service with their back catalog and every David Attenborough special in 4K, it’d be one thing but Americans are inundated with news and streaming services. I pay for my local newspaper’s digital site — mostly because if I don’t, who will? But even The NY Times has to have recipes and word games to keep people subscribed. Why would anyone pay more than a dollar a month or something for BBC News?

The U.S. seems like an odd place to trial this. It’s the most competitive media market in the world and we’re all already sick of being asked to pay for 40 different services. In conclusion:🏴‍☠️

[–] KumaSudosa 1 points 1 day ago

It's insane how much music, art, theatre, television etc still comes out of the UK, and how little they've capitalised on it - letting the Americans take all the initiative.

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[–] j0ester@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Guess I’ll be using VPN

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