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[–] TheDannysaur@lemmy.world 1 points 12 minutes ago* (last edited 3 minutes ago)

I'm gonna get hammered here because this is Lemmy and anything even loosely associated with Natural Family Planning is going to get down voted.

There are very specific and narrow methods that work well (not perfectly, obviously). I won't quote and statistics here.

To start up top, if you want to use any method of birth control, do it. It's up to you entirely, I don't judge anyone at all.

Also, anything related to the calendar method, day counting, or any such nonsense fuckin sucks. Some like to rope that into natural family planning because they are super simple... But super simple doesn't work.

If anyone is interested in learning about one that actually has scientific backing, it would be the Billings Ovulation Method. But it's not day tracking or anything... You need to do some work. You need to learn about it, learn your own body, and be diligent. And most importantly, use alternative methods when you aren't sure.

Again, I'm willing to bring on the downvotes, but I hope people research before assuming it's all bullshit.

And just to be clear: If you want something easy, use birth control.

As an edit: I want to fully acknowledge the gap between typical use and perfect use. My wife and I are certainly in the perfect use category... Her dad is a doctor and we are well aware of all the science behind it. If you aren't going to put in the work, the method is NOT for you. At all.

[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 hours ago

Low birth rates are only problematic to carcinogenic ideologies.

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 25 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Just want to drop this here.

Birth control is great.

Some methods of birth control are bad for you specifically. Not all birth control is equal. You are a complex piece of equipment. Birth control alters the way that equipment works. There are side effects, no matter what, and they are listed because the were well documented in clinical trials.

That does not mean you should not use birth control. It means you should work with your doctor to find the one that works best for you.

My wife tried a birth control medication that had an interaction with another medication and made her very drousy. My sister took one that made her feel suicidal. They shopped around and found something that worked.

[–] AngryPancake@sh.itjust.works 11 points 7 hours ago (2 children)
[–] boletus@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 hours ago

BC pills have usages outside of contraception. It can be used to treat various issues related to hormones.

[–] simsalabim@lemmy.world 9 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Condoms are fine if you want to protect from STIs, but they’re less effective than other hormone based contraceptives to prevent conceptions.

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

And much, much, much more expensive.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 18 points 11 hours ago

I practice natural family planning

It's called being ugly

[–] pawnfuture@lemmy.world 14 points 12 hours ago

The states that imposed these Draconian laws have terrible maternal mortality rates now and they're trying to hide the data so they don't have to acknowledge the harm they did. Same way it was during COVID where some state governments like Florida were attacking independent investigators for having accurate numbers when the state changed theirs to try and look better.

[–] pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world 56 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I highly encourage anyone that doesn’t want to ever have kids, to go get tied or snipped so that you won’t ever have to worry about it.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

And if you're in a conservative hell state in the United States where doctors refuse to do a tubal ligation unless you have one child, are over 30, or "get your (nonexistent) husband to sign off on it", find a doctor in Washington, California, Massachusetts, or really any non Republican dumpster fire, and they'll likely treat you like an adult. Likely. Not bitter about that at all.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 12 hours ago

One of my best friends had endo. She tried to get it fixed (she is not straight and never wanted kids) and she was told “no, there’s other options, we’re not doing a hysterectomy” multiple times.

I believe it was her third suicide attempt after being admitted multiple other times for self harm that they finally took her shit out.

She’s been fine since then. No suicide-inducing pain, no debilitation, no problem. You’re right—it’s fucking insane that it has to come to that.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

I won't do this until we have a surgery that allows you to turn your sperm production on and off at any time with the push of a button.

I don't want kids but I may want them someday, and I rather not have to go through surgery twice and spend a bunch of money just because I changed my mind.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 points 45 minutes ago

Iirc they can extract sperm directly from the testicles with a needle for folks who don't want to/can't get a vasectomy reversed but change their mind about kids, not a fun procedure to go through I'm sure but still easier than reversing a vasectomy and a much shorter recovery time

[–] morphballganon@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 12 hours ago

How would you feel about adopting?

I got snipped and then got married to someone who already had a kid, so I ended up being a (step-)parent anyway. But I told my doctor that if I ever changed my mind, I would adopt.

[–] deaddigger@sh.itjust.works -1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Good news everyone! That already exists. https://bimek.com/

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Uh, yeah, as an idea, lol:

Since spring 2016, we have had the OK from an ethics committee of a renowned clinic in Germany for the clinical study on the Bimek SLV Model 4. Unfortunately, we have not yet been able to find the financial means to start the clinical study.

For an investment of 600k € we could at best have the test valves manufactured. But then there would be no money left to push the study forward in compliance with all medical device laws. If no further investments were made then, the validity of the sterile packaging would expire.

It is not easy to find investors for this project if one is honest and openly communicates known risks.

Seeing "© 2018" at the bottom of the website doesn't exactly inspire confidence either, lol.

[–] Imacat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 16 hours ago

There’s an open source period tracker called drip that doesn’t collect your data. Everything is kept local. My wife used it for a while and learned some things about her cycle. It was also cool being able to know almost exactly when she’d be on her period 2 months ahead of time.

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 66 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

Look into open-source apps. You're on freakin' Lemmy.

[–] sailorzoop@lemmy.librebun.com 39 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 28 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I think we just need to type louder.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] towerful@programming.dev 24 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

THEY SAID:

I THINK WE NEED TO TYPE LOUDER

[–] mycelium_underground@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago

Thanks, I couldnt read it the first time 😂

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[–] VeryVito@lemmy.ml 35 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

I knew a woman who stopped taking birth control because of occasional headaches, and she and her husband both ended up with one that didn’t move out until 23 years later.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 15 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

This actually happened to me. The doctor said the birth control was raising my blood pressure. I said "I don't think so" but turns out she was right. So I quit them and immediately got pregnant.

But when you say "occasional headaches"? The other thing I found out when I quit them is that they were amplifying my migraines quite a lot. Occasional headaches does not adequately describe that pain, vomiting from the pain.

(ETA - the copper IUD was also a nightmare for me, but eventually landed on the hormonal IUD and that was fantastic, those got me through to menopause - Birth Control doesn't have to be the pills, and not all of the 'hormonal' methods are the same. And an IUD will last longer than the current administration)

[–] architectonas@lemmy.world 41 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (12 children)

Sure, the general "birth control is bad for you" message is not optimal. But the root of this misinformation are insights about the side effects coming up more or less recently. iirc one third to half of all women on hormonal birth control experience major side effects like headaches, nausea or mood changes. I can see how these significant findings combined with patriarchy awareness and associated anger led to exaggerated messages.

Nonetheless, I think people thinking more critically about birth control is a good thing as one should always consider both benefits and risks.

Edit: Or did I misread this post? If so, I'm very sorry...

[–] presbypenguin@reddthat.com 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Do you know what has all of those adverse effects in much greater frequency while also having a profound effect on your life? Pregnancy

Yes, the medical field has done a fucking terrible job of communicating the adverse effects of anything to do exclusively with AFAB bodies - look up what an IUD insertion is like without anesthesia - but again, if we compare hormonal birth control to pregnancy in terms of adverse physiological and mental effects, it's not even on the same planet.

Yeah, it might not be great for a sizable percentage of folks, and a minute percentage of folks have more immediately dangerous adverse effects that make taking hormonal birth control impossible, but in almost every case pregnancy is worse.

There's an obvious reason to get pregnant, for sure, but it comes with much, much greater risks than preventing it, especially if you don't want the intended outcome of pregnancy.

[–] architectonas@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

I feel like the tumblr post is aimed primarily at hormonal birth control and the like. This is what I had in mind writing my comment at least. I am not arguing in support of not using any birth control at all. The simplest and not much less safe method are condoms. Easy to use and basically no side effects.

[–] Graphy@lemmy.world 25 points 18 hours ago

Yeah the pill is a great tool but can definitely have its side effects. I know my wife on it had a terribly low libido to the point we joked that’s how it kept you from getting pregnant

[–] Imacat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 16 hours ago

There are some serious health implications too like reduced bone density, heart issues, and cancer risks. Women should have the choice to take them if they want to obviously, but there can be very real side effects.

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Don’t most of these issues relate to the pill specifically? The pill releases far more hormones in the body than a UDI which to my understanding is safe for most women.

[–] huppakee@feddit.nl 10 points 17 hours ago

I think there is a lot you can about side-effects on anti-conception (from condoms are a hassle to pills mess with hormones), but lately young people are more in favour of 'natural sex' such as you pulling out early when the woman is ovulating which is (obviously) far less effictive. But the thing is,

one should always consider both benefits and risks.

young people aren't good at considering the the results of those results because a) their brain is still developing and b) experience comes from trying. They need to be protected against themselves, just like we do with alcohol, drugs, driving etc.

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[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 11 points 15 hours ago

Gotta grow new soldiers for the next war

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

It’s being pushed by the TERF/radfems on tumblr (covert alt right movement) as well. Birth control messes up your goddess energy or something.

[–] GeekyOnion@lemmy.world 18 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The whole point of everything they're doing is to create an uneducated population of easily manipulated fodder. Of course people are forgetting. This effort has been running for 20-30 years (or longer) at this point, and it's working.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago

Yup, and it's working so well they've shifted into next gear and are stepping up the plans.

[–] pappabosley@lemm.ee 9 points 17 hours ago

Back to good old withdrawal method and coat hangers in the US for birth control

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