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https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2025/06/30/canadians-react-to-cancelling-digital-services-tax/

Duh. No one elected them to go elbows down. Gonna be a short lived minority.

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[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why would the Conservatives bring this government down, when it's doing everything they want and taking the blame?

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

the conservatives are a joke and they wouldn't bring the gov down as you suggest, but the Block and the NDP may and either would get my vote at this point... Carney could not have been more backstabby to the people that gave him the PM seat at this point

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 day ago (11 children)

This seems really premature. I dislike Carney's policies for a bunch of reasons, but it's premature to shit on him for this. We don't know what the final trade agreement will be.

The last time Trump threw one of these tantrums, NAFTA morphed into USMCA without much of a hit to our economy (afaiu). If our government can repeat that success while we're diversifying our economy away from the US then that's a win.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 17 hours ago

He needs to resign

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

I always think of this song every time I hear 'elbows up'.

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Carney
Always
Chickens
Out

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Carney

Often

Cancels

Knowingly

[–] Oderus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I always thought he DST was stupid so to me this is nothing more than placating Trump.

[–] karlhungus@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Canada's implementation is different from other countries':

  • It's retroactive to 2022 - so the corps in question would have to drop a big payout in the first year.
  • It's slightly higher than the UK tax that the yanks didn't call out. (3% vs. 2%)

I don't know if I would call it stupid, but that retroactive thing seems odd. I don't know much about corporate tax law, so maybe that's a thing? I dunno.

[–] leastaction@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago

The idea was to give the Americans time to negotiate something before the tax came into effect. If they didn't do it in 3 years, I don't know why Carney thinks giving in will lead to any benefit for Canada.

[–] karlhungus@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't get the hate, it seems like about time these ultra rich companies paid some taxes?

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think the companies are the only ones who hate the DST. That and their puppet politicians.

[–] karlhungus@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

the parent of this thread thinks it's stupid, and got up voted but like zero explanation. Looking at their post history they don't seem like a bot

[–] gaiussabinus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

They were told about the implementation and the date active. They have chosen not to pay. The total to current date is due. Its like me not doing my taxes for seven years and receiving the letter from the cra that I had better bring my taxes to current year or face fines. Same deal for businesses.

[–] Oderus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The percentage seemed arbitrary and it being retroactive seemed excessive and unnecessary. We depend on US content so much you couldn't possibly function on the internet without it. It'll force the US to limit services so we'll be forced to use Chinese or European services and for what benefit? I use an adblocker and pirate most my stuff so no one is making money off me.

[–] karlhungus@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

The percentage seemed arbitrary and it being retroactive seemed excessive and unnecessary.

What?! 3% We pay 8.79% on our income here. Three seems low.

I feel like no facebook in canada would be a net positive, especially after reading "Carless people". I don't even think that would happen, it's not like these companies can't afford it, they just don't want to set a precedent, and they spent all that money on trump!

I use an adblocker and pirate most my stuff so no one is making money off me.

You never use Amazon? I also use an adblocker and a pihole i think i see relatively fewer ads, i still see them.

The one negative i can think of coming out of this is the companies passing the tax on to us, i suspect that wouldn't happen.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

It’s dumb to implement IF we are in fact going in with Europe and the OECD on a digital sales tax. But it doesn’t seem imminent at the moment so I don’t have high hopes.

https://pro.bloombergtax.com/insights/international-tax/understanding-digital-services-taxes-the-oecd/#oecd-and-taxation

Otherwise it’s capitulating to fash.

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