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I was talking to one of my friends and he mentioned staying home on July 4, citing how there are a lot of really ugly things going on in the US.

After thinking about this myself, I'm starting to feel the same way. Instead of being proud of the country, I'm feeling like I'm just another wallet that companies and the government are trying to suck all the money out of.

The cost of living is going up, the housing market is a nightmare, I don't feel very confident in our government at all, the job market is a nightmare...

I think I'll be staying home this year too... anyone else?

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[–] Octavio@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

I live abroad, so I can just ignore the whole stupid thing. πŸ˜„

[–] Shanedino@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

I think you mean No Kings Day.

[–] anachrohack@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I haven't believed in America in a few years now. Certainly not since the pandemic. As far as I'm concerned, the state I'm from is the only place I owe any allegiance to. The other states can go fuck themselves, especially the red ones

Patriotism is jingoism at this point. Haven't felt that for decades.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

I normally enjoy some fireworks every year, but have zero interest this year.

I'm feeling patriotic enough to burn US flags and I'm not even from the US!

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 days ago

I haven't been necessarily patriotic for a long time because why pledge allegiance to a single nation? The only reason I really care about July 4 is the fireworks. It's more tradition than anything that I see them.

Anyways, both of his terms make me feel vindicated in not being patriotic in a country.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Call for independence from everything GOP and Trump on July 4th?

[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 days ago
[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I was hoping everyone would turn out for another No Kings event but I guess too many people complained.

If we can’t be proud of the mess we’re in now, maybe we can be proud of the people who speak up, who try to create change. Maybe we can hark back to our origins tearing down oppressive political and corporate systems. Maybe we can hold up the mythical ideas that used to unite us and fight to make them true. It’s our duty as patriotic citizens to set our country on the right path toward one we can be proud of.

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[–] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

It's been almost 20 years since I felt patriotic. I mostly just comfort the dog and hope the yahoos don't accidentally burn my house down.

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

I've decided to actively take the flag back from conservatives. There are some good ideals and good people in this country, and good people who fought for those ideals. I'm not proud of most of what the government has done and all of what it is doing now, but I can be proud of the people who want to get along with everyone and fight for diversity and freedom and the good things that should be fought for.

[–] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I thought you guys don't celebrate it that much any more? Heard it got replaced with a Trump Birthday Military Parade Day or someshit. And it sucked so much that nobody is doing holidays anymore. Sorry, I'm in Europe, the news are coming in slowly from the US these days

[–] expr@programming.dev 5 points 5 days ago

Not sure what you're referring to, but the 4th hasn't really changed. Maybe you're confusing it with the (laughable) military parade Trump did for his own birthday?

Personally I've long found patriotism to be a pretty abhorrent concept, but I've always enjoyed the opportunity to spend time with my family regardless. To me, the 4th is much more about community than it is the country. And while this country is fucking awful, I do have a pretty great community around me that I'm grateful for.

[–] canajac@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 days ago

How many will die on July 4th? What parade will be targeted? Who will be the next mass murderer? Stay home for your safety people. Too many crazies out there now to do anything in public.

[–] trslim@pawb.social 4 points 5 days ago

I don't even like to call myself American. I'm a veteran, and it turned me off of America more than anything.

I'm boycotting America this year.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

After thinking about this myself, I’m starting to feel the same way. Instead of being proud of the country, I’m feeling like I’m just another wallet that companies and the government are trying to suck all the money out of.

Always have been, always will be.

The cost of living is going up, the housing market is a nightmare

Don't worry, once they deported or killed all the ~~Jews~~ illegals the prices will surely come down.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You're not a wallet. You're an automaton producing value for capitalists.

They dribble a little money into your wallet each fortnight so you can buy subscriptions and delivered take away.

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[–] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Honestly nationalism for the US has always been kinda gross to me. We've never really had much to be proud of as a nation historically.

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 8 points 6 days ago (3 children)
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[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 days ago

I would be very concerned about anybody who is feeling patriotic this year

being hopeful and not having given up is one thing. but patriotic? entirely shameful

[–] LoboAureo@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Me, but not from USA, so....

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 points 5 days ago

I'm not celebrating patriotism. I'm celebrating a 3 day weekend.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 days ago

i'm also staying home. if someone "how dare you!"'s you, tell them you like celebrating not-fascist countries.

personally, i think i'll adopt and celebrate mexico's holidays

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