It could be a reducing interest in posting totally public stuff. Perhaps people want to just use group chats in Signal instead?
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Why does everything need to expand? I’m happy with where we are. It feels cozy.
It doesn't, but stalling is different than just sitting roughly the same. I am talking about my experience, with my peers and clients... most of whom have just upped and left
I have enjoyed this discussion but some of my UK peers have added that the fediverse in general (like most social media to be fair) when it is new seems to "american" for them. Bluesky suffers from this criticism as well. This puts a lot of UK users off. Heck even threads is described by many as too us focused right now (see the I'm in the UK is anybody else posts on threads)
That's really interesting. Australian here, and I've remarked several times how the userbase of the fediverse isn't dominated by American voices like most other social media platforms I've used.
Yes, it's nice to see German, Canadian, Australian, French and all the other instances blossom
Yay I was included in a list!
https://feddit.uk/ has 400 monthly active users and is as British as you can get
I think most of us are based on different instances too, the main UK community is showing more than double that per day.
Aye it is.... but 400 users seems really small compared to others
2500 monthly active users on !unitedkingdom@feddit.uk
again - no bias but that seems tiny compared to other "things"
What other things? For the Fediverse, there doesn't seem to be a large UK mastodon instance: https://mastodon.fediverse.observer/list
For corporate social media, is there any UK based social media?
Nope.... us Brits are a strange lot. Heck it is why I asked the q to start with because brits ARE so strange
Still, what other UK "things" have more than 2500 monthly active users ?
All the meta products, reddit, old fashioned forums... plenty of things. Discourse (pah) tik tok. Different but have way more users. I'm genuinely curious how they get so little traffic in this day and age against other methods. And yes, I know I'm asking on Lemmy, but I'm new here, and I still cannot fathom why they are so quiet
All the meta products, reddit, old fashioned forums… plenty of things. Discourse (pah) tik tok. Different but have way more users
Aren't all of those US focused?
I’m genuinely curious how they get so little traffic in this day and age against other methods. And yes, I know I’m asking on Lemmy, but I’m new here, and I still cannot fathom why they are so quiet
Network effect. !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com if you want to help spread the word
nope they have plenty of UK focused things. Run by a US corp of course, but plenty of local content. I welcome the debate, but for the majority of people not in the fediverse ecosystem, the numbers just look awful and that is a massive reason they don't either look here, or stay. Herd mentality is strong. Most of them are in no way shape or form techy either
If they're OK on corporate social media, there's not a lot of reason to switch here indeed
Feddit.UK is kinda nice as there's the little british bubble in Local
It's an interesting perspective. Historically the fediverse was more European; Mastodon is based in Germany and initially got a lot of traction in France, NLNet has contributed a lot of the funding, and there's historically more adoption by European governmental organizations than US. But these days a lot of the energy is being driven by corporate interests (Flipboard, Wordpress, Meta, Ghost) which are primarily American (Ghost being the only exception), so that's leading to a change of dynamics. Distressing, especially given what's going on here in the US!
Also British, trying (somewhat failing) to avoid more of the political stuff and that seems to be most of the national specific stuff that gets posted.
Kiwi here, originally European so I get content in two languages and from people with some interests in similar. Good percentage of local and international stuff generally keeps me happy. (Not too concerned/glad about overall numbers - there's no continuous growth on a finite planet)
I think because Emperor has vanished, might be a factor
Who?
A very active britposter
I do generally wish there was more content. So I've decided to start actively participating rather than lurking more recently.
Yeah I’m new to Lemmy, myself and this is really my only complaint. There’s some things that I’m interested in that just don’t really have an active community on here at all
I’m liking it here so far so I’m going to try to do the same and post more actively, I mostly lurked when I was on Reddit
I appreciate your effort. I was more of a lurker on Reddit, but realised we all got to actively participate here if we want Lemmy (and the Fediverse at large) to succeed.
Unfortunately, content marketing is a long-term ROI strategy. IMO other marketing means (e.g. ads, influencers) would do a better job of bringing new users onboard in the short term, helping us to tap into the network effect.
Fediverse does everything I require out of social media. Functionality of threadiverse is mostly there and getting better (Piefed will probably replace Lemmy as the go-to eventually), apps are better. Mastodon / microblogging was always good enough for communicating with real people, it’s when you’re an influencer you run into limitations but who cares about that. Maybe there aren’t that many people that are into this and that’s okay because we’re not a corporation that needs to report quarterly growth forever.
Didn't the UK recently have a controversial online safety act or something? And didn't many servers defederate UK servers as result?
No, lemmy.zip just geo blocked UK IP adresses, but the content is still available from other servers, no instance defederated.
But usage is not going downwards. Check these stats out: https://fediverse.observer/stats
MAU has been steady at 1.1 million since this time last year.
Within the fediverse there are some platforms that are losing ground and some that are growing.
As a general comment, I suggest everyone interested in making the Fediverse grow to join those two communities
- !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com is about promoting the Threadiverse on other platforms (usually Reddit)
- !fedigrow@lemmy.zip is about growing communities on the platform
Nobody likes to shout into the void. The second one helps finding people to help you grow your communities.
According to my observations, the Fediverse grows whenever people look for alternative. People do that whenever their comfort is disturbed by material changes. E.g. Reddit gated app APIs, people's apps started shutting down, protest ensued, it failed, people looked for an alternative, many joined Lemmy as the obvious one. That created one of the largest spikes in active usage. There were others following that. There are network effects keeping people where they are unless there's a significant force pushing them to overcome that. And so I think the Fediverse would grow the same way it's grown so far. By being here for people whenever they can't say or read something the way they were previously able to, as corporations enshittify to profit maximize. You even see them doing that themselves, with Bluesky for example, where they built an alternative that pretends to be federated in order to capture refugees. But Bluesky is inevitably going to get fucked too and since it's federated in pretense only, there isn't another instance to take over. I think the process is similar to Linux adoption. It was always there, chugging along for people looking for alternatives. It hasn't stopped growing. It hasn't exploded but we're not complaining about where we are, are we.
I definitely get burnt out on it faster when half my front page is meta posts. I don't have time to curate, I just want to see content that isn't about itself.