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[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Do the Iran strike. But on Russia.

Then say you’ll keep on doing it until Russia retreats out of Ukraine.

They will never ever use nukes as that is the end of their entire civilisation.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Of course there is.

Today Russia is incapable of any win scenario, so either it will be a dragged out war (thanks trump) or we fund them adequately and Ukraine will bloody Russia's nose and economy until they have to either draw back or have their society crumble.

[–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Russia can totally win. A peace of compromise, full of territorial concessions, lack of reparations or security guarantees... any of these things are a victory for Russia and a disastrous defeat for Ukraine and Europe.

Russia can absolutely win if serious measures are not taken very decisively. We are on a precipice.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Well a win for Russia means taking Ukraine, and that's extremely unlikely, basically the USA have to help Russia out or something.

Also, I don't count the Russians propaganda wins as wins (a wheat field here, a bombarded village there...).

That said, I sure do hope Europe continues to arm up and support Ukraine, and one can dream about US help ofc.

[–] Talaraine@fedia.io 11 points 3 days ago

That's a great article, concise and to the point.

[–] baggins@beehaw.org 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We should have grown a pair when they first attacked, back in 2014.

[–] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

The best time was then, the second best time is now.