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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 156 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Jesus fucking Christ. The fact that he is getting away with so much bullshit based solely on the fear that he might do something is absolutely infuriating. Like, I get it. I understand that it's a complicated issue and these people caving to him are trying desperately to appease him to save their own countries or themselves. But this man, and whoever is backing him and possibly pulling the strings, is purposefully destroying society for more money and power. So much shit going backwards because less than 1% of the 8 billion of people on the entire fucking planet felt like they didn't have enough.

And at the end of the day, when everyone is done appeasing a madman, what will be left? What kind of world will we create as we bend the knee to the man that wants us all to suffer? If you appease the madman to save yourself, the only thing you will get in return is a life of fear in a madman's world.

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 64 points 1 week ago (2 children)

At this point, I'm pretty sure they're just using it as an excuse to wreck social services.

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[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Does it say anywhere in the article what social programs are on the chopping block? I've heard this claim hundreds of times, but so far it's on the basis of "it's got to come from somewhere". What if you build military hospitals, military infrastrtucture and military schools? Wink wink, nudge nudge.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

it's not listed because this is not what is happening

italy for example put bridge construction in that military budget (as critical infrastructure)

also the subtext was "spend that defense budget in america" and this is not happening either for variety of reasons, so it's partial failure already for them

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

“spend that defense budget in america”

hah, yeah, that part is hilarious. tramp already ruined the f35 program by suggesting that the ones sold to allies would come with degraded specs...why sink funding in something that you can only use with american permission exclusively for their stupid wars?

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[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Opinion article. Also they missed many NATO Top nuances, like the whole political game. But yes, NATO members in Europe have been spending more, and more defense is and was needed.

[–] thejml@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don’t bow down to the psychopath! You know he’s going to just pull out of NATO anyway.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If the US dumps NATO, that’s all the more reason to increase defence funding. Either that or start learning Russian.

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[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Just read the article, and did it feel as though it was written by 3 different people to anyone else?

But anyway, the EU undeniably needed to spend more on their collective militaries with a hostile, expansionist neighbor on their doorstep. This is literally one of two things that Trump has been right about in his lifetime.

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[–] BeBopaLula@piefed.ca 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I guess the camps for disabled are next on the list. The world is making its choice.

[–] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago

No please fuck no

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