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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Ingenious name. I feel like Bitchat should be connected somehow with PenIsland.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

If you want to bitch at someone, there's an app for that

[–] lemonuri@infosec.pub 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There is already a really good foss app that does exactly that, it's called briar and is as secure and private as it gets. The downside with p2p communication apps being, that they eat your phones battery for breakfast. Still a good option for activists or journalists I think. It's a good way to get around the "server in the middle" problem. Still more convenient to run your own (xmpp) server at home imho...

[–] hietsu@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

** for Android (and Windows/macOS/Linux) but not iOS.

And apparently never going to be as some key component is written in Java. Other technical obstacles should be solvable (like f.ex. getting continuous running in bg by exploiting location services like iSH can do)

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[–] KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 days ago
[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

For all those little bitches.

[–] Mniot@programming.dev 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I once did some programming on the Cybiko, a device from 2000 that could form a wireless mesh network with peers. The idea was that you could have a shopping mall full of teens and they'd be able to chat with each other from one end to the other by routing through the mesh. It was a neat device!

[–] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I wanted a cybiko so bad as a teen. It seemed like it would be so cool if everyone I knew bought one. Of course no one did, but I still think they are awesome.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

don't nazis already have telegram

[–] Pro@programming.dev 7 points 2 days ago

Now they have a second option.

[–] zapzap@lemmings.world 22 points 2 days ago (4 children)

If you're in Bluetooth range can't you chat with your mouths? Or is it for secretly chatting when you're in a group of people? I don't get the use case.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 12 points 2 days ago

It's not about you being in bluetooth range of the person you want to talk to, it's about all the people sitting in between you both that pass the message along without touching the internet.

So you can be on a cargo ship, or on a remote island, with 20 other people and all use chat. If 1 person has internet, then you can all chat globally as well.

It's the same basic method of how airtags work. Everyone with an iPhone connects to the airtag and passes data to Apple. It's just done in the background, so users don't ever notice.

Bluetooth ranges are quite large now.

But an example even if someone is a foot away would be a concert or event where it's to loud.

Could be useful on a plane: If you have different seats than someone and don't want to pay for your airline's ridiculous data prices. Although, most airlines I fly on(american, delta, air canada, united) all have free RCS/Facebook/Whatsapp, but not necessarily Signal, Telegram, Matrix, or your preferred secure service.

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[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 75 points 3 days ago

Bitch At

Lmao

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 102 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I read it like that first and thought it was one of these illegal apps to track your partner without them knowing.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Phone makers need to add LoRa radios to phones. Something like this would be more useful then.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The best app to Bitch At things.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Have a look at meshtastic. Yes, you do have to get a separate device, but range on it can be several tens to hundreds of miles depending on the mesh density.

[–] oppy1984@lemdro.id 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah my first thought when I read the headline was "why not just use meshtastic?"

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 156 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Let's build an app to liberate communications but only release it inside a closed garden. Great idea

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

In the context of the US fascist dictatorship and Apple being the dominant smartphone there, starting with Apple makes sense.

If it can be done within Apples curated monopoly, it will be technically possible on Android (probably).

[–] Eldritch@piefed.social 54 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I don't trust Jack. But this does seem marginally interesting. Actually decentralized, no servers supposedly. We'll have to see. Again I sure as hell I'm not going to trust dorsey. And he's got it under some cringey edgelord "unlicense" license which basically appears to be MIT just with a different name. The actual concept seems intriguing. But definitely nothing to get excited about currently.

[–] Pro@programming.dev 42 points 4 days ago (2 children)

And he's got it under some cringey edgelord "unlicense" license which basically appears to be MIT just with a different name.

Bro, Public Domain.

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[–] sit_up_straight@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

youtube-dl and yt-dlp are under unlicense. it's just boilerplate legalese for public domain

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[–] thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] percent@infosec.pub 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Aside from the fact that he made twitter (which I blame in large part for how our political/news media landscape, as well as modern discourse, has become so thoughtless), left and made blue sky, then left blue sky and endorsed twitter?

The dude supports a ton of toxic shit and can get entirely fucked.

[–] percent@infosec.pub 1 points 2 days ago

Lol he endorsed Twitter after leaving Bluesky? That's an interesting series of events.

Yeah I think Twitter has been a net negative for society.

[–] falynns@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Neat idea 10 years ago "discovered" recently by a tech bro who thinks he's the first one to think of it. He got his clicks, I guess.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

No one has got it right yet though. Being apple only, he hasn’t either.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 55 points 3 days ago (3 children)

messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks. No internet

So he's made a shitty version of Briar and crammed crypto into it?

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Briar doesn’t have an iOS client an never will

This doesn’t have an android client 😀

[–] redhat421@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Interesting. I wonder why Briar won't have an iOS client?

[–] BackwardsUntoDawn@infosec.pub 5 points 2 days ago

I'm sure the background limitations are a big part, but I wonder if there's also limits to what they can do with bluetooth

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 9 points 3 days ago

Like I said, Briar is better

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 3 days ago

Just wait for AI enhancements.

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[–] mahi@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago

I'm happy to see a niche decentralized thing from Jack more than if it was another commercial start-up. And I have nothing against yet another bluetooth chat. But I'm not impressed. In the whitepaper nothing is written about spam protection, so it wouldn't work as a reliable P2P app at scale. And the UI... It's mere a toy for Jack's personal nostalgia about "the good old times". And nostalgia driven development doesn't work in general, I would say.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 58 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

Bit chat

Bitch at

Being Jack Dorsey, I'm going with the latter.

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[–] icegladiator@lemy.lol 2 points 2 days ago

We already have Briar. I don't get why Jack Dorsey is trying to get into the messaging space so hard. He also bankrolls SimpleX Chat if anyone is familiar with that platform

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago

Seems rehashed, with more enshittification likely to be baked in. Typical tech bros.

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