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[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 3 points 23 minutes ago

"when people can participate"

[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

According to the NY State PowerBall Lottery, If you had invested $1 in 23 5 12 34 7 17 on Jul 8, 2025, your investment would now be worth $100M. Capitalism works when people can participate.

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 hours ago

My mistake, I played mega millions instead of powerball.

[–] yanwenjian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago

Consider this, if you invest in an ice cream vending machines now, where will you be in 10 years?

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I'm going to be treated like a pariah for this, but many successful companies (and like, influencers etc) are successful due to government (sometimes CIA) intervention. And none of us know which company is going to be picked and who lobbied the right way and fucked the right people and was a relative of so and so and accidentally did a hit and run or has blackmail on them.

Reminder the CIA had their own airline, available to the public and not known to most of their customers that it was owned by CIA. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_America_(airline)

There's also an article directly on the CIA's website about Air America but I am reticent to directly link to them, you can google it though.

My investments/trades have actually done much better since incorporating the idea that the government controls much of the markets, not hardly anyone else. The government makes crypto - Chillguy for instance, Bukele made a national currency of El Salvador. And it's randomly up right now and I'm pretty sure that's because they are funnelling/LAUNDERING the Big Beautiful Bill money into that coin (and others) to pay BRICS currency.

A bunch of these coins are inflating currently, and technically if you take more money from them than you put in, you've successfully waged economic war against them. They usually have a baseline their bots (slaves) maintain - Trump coin is around $7-$8 for eg but can dip lower - and then they will increase this baseline and start swing trading it, usually opposite the US sleeping schedule but not always. They seem to all have different patterns and some switch them every 3 days in line with game theory re: prisoner's dilemma. They run tons of online ads, have influencers talk about the coin, and have slaves talks about it in videos about video games etc to hype people into buying. So there's tons of volatility that they are introducing deliberately and then they swing trade it, sometimes 3 to 6 swings a day.

Ofc this isn't trading advice or me suggesting people band together to attack trades as that could be considered maybe illegal.

Elon also has a lot of coins too, and South Africa is part of BRICS, there's no reason he can't be some kind of asset of theirs or any or several countries. Elon's coins tend to follow a very classic Andrew Tate style immediate rug pull though, as they could simply be payments from who knows to him.

Fartcoin and Trump coin follow the same general patterns as each other.

They also funnel money into Russian coins and Russian memes, as well as Chinese ones and so on.

Any woke themed coin or poor coin is generally a scam meant to hurt poor people and leftists.

And of course, they have donation coins where they basically give money to Nazis and racists, which is how Trump supporters and Nazis and methheads in trailers got so much money - they deliberately have been funding them wirh crypto UBI.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago

Yah if i could see twenty years into the future I'd have far more than $25 million in the bank

[–] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago

Of course! I should’ve been investing instead of wasting my time in 4th grade. Who would’ve thought?

[–] LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works 14 points 15 hours ago

Last line is the kicker. Capitalism is a pyramid scheme that only works (solely for those at the top who actually collect from said pyramid) when an ever growing percentage of people are cut out from being able to participate in capitalism (don't worry! those people cut out, still contribute to the pyramid).

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

25mill, sure. Bezos is worth billions.

[–] Tamo240@programming.dev 2 points 1 hour ago

Because he must have invested $400,000 of effort per month to get that return.

Oh no wait that's not possible, he stole that value from the employees of his company.

[–] hector@sh.itjust.works 8 points 15 hours ago

I don't want to get rich by giving my money to a company that treats the employees like shit

[–] Soleos@lemmy.world 50 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (4 children)

You go back in time to when you're living paycheck to paycheck and zero financial literacy. You convince yourself to invest $100/month in Amazon no matter what, because it will be worth it. You eat nothing but instant ramen, forego preventative care, get sick from malnutrition. Your quality of life is horrible because you forego basic necessities to invest in Amazon. The dot com bubble wipes out 90% of Amazon's value but you continue to invest because your past self told you about this, but if you just endure, Amazon will recover and you will be a millionaire.

In this timeline, Amazon never recovers and goes bankrupt. On Twitter, you read a post about George Shaheen's wedding, and how he's entitled to his billions, despite predatory and exploitative practices, because his wealth could have been yours. If you had only invested $100/month since 1996 into WebVan, you'd be a millionaire.

Investing is, at the end of the day, a gamble.

[–] sthetic@lemmy.ca 1 points 28 minutes ago

Or: Everyone decreases their discretionary spending to invest in companies that make consumer goods.

As a result, few people are buying the products these companies sell, like books and iPods, and they don't become successful.

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[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 4 points 13 hours ago

Don’t forget the cellar boxing and theft of others business after being invited to amazon and then copied.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The AI didn't do the math for you. It just made up a plausible sounding series of statistically likely words. Dumbass. But I don't expect the kind of person who would say this to be smart.

[–] piconaut@sh.itjust.works 8 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

According to my calculation (which is probably wrong) you would actually have approximately 3.8 million today not 25. The .com bubble would have caused a 93% drawdown.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

And the person who definitely wrongly commented in the screenshot is a stupid fuck. Thanks for doing the math and sharing.

[–] piconaut@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

Happy to help. I hate plausible bullshit posts like the OP. I'm sure I get tricked into believing things like this all the time without even realizing it. For anyone wanting to backtest similar investing ideas https://valueinvesting.io/backtest-portfolio is a pretty good tool.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 14 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

You don't become a billionaire by spending money. It is, by definition, hoarding money.

Edit to add: I also don't take financial advice from chronic gamblers.

[–] DrPop@lemmy.world 28 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I was 6, where the fuck am i getting $100 a month.

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 10 points 21 hours ago

Lemonade stand. Spiced up with some crystal meth.

[–] Alaik@lemmy.zip 6 points 21 hours ago

Yeah you just needed a 100 bucks a month as a 6 year old and also ESP to know which stock to pick!

Its your fault your poor, now leave him alone while he spends daddy's money.

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 25 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

You'd have to be clairvoyant to have known that in 1997, though. And if you're clairvoyant, casinos offer a better return on investment.

[–] stinerman@midwest.social 12 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, if you'd have put $100/mo into pets.com you'd have $0 now. Fun fact: Amazon invested heavily into pets.com.

[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

Pets.com is held up as the example of these late 90s tech bubble. No one could ever believe your have pet supplies sold online when you have a pet store a short drive away.

The problem with the company's business plan was that pet supplies of all types—food, toys, clothing, and so on—could be found easily at the nearest grocery or pet store. Given the choice between ordering online and waiting for delivery or walking into the nearest store to buy the product and take it home immediately, the majority of people preferred the latter.

But now Chewy is a very successful company with a loyal customer base and even Amazon covers much of what was sold at Pets.com.

People will say things like it was a good idea that was too early. But at the time it was ridiculed for the naivete and exuberance of people in the tech world.

[–] SunshineJogger@feddit.org 30 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

What a moron.

If people could predict the future stock market speculation and all that wouldn't exist.

Knowing which company will take off is impossible and just guesstigambling.

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[–] gizmonicus@sh.itjust.works 57 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah and if I kept investing $100 a month in the lottery it could be worth $500M today. Or it could be worthless because, as this clown already knows, no one can predict the next 30 fucking years like some clairvoyant.

OK, Biff, if you're so smart, what's the play right now? Why aren't you investigating $100 a month in a small online bookstore that will one day be a tech supergiant?

1998: I invested in this small company that makes this pretty decent way to search for things on the internet. Can't imagine it will be able to compete with the big boys like Yahoo!Search or even edge out the cool new guys like AskJeeves, but I like that they have "dont be evil" as part of their company rules.

2025: I own every detail of your lives. Our eyes are always watching. I'm richer than God. Our search engine is almost useless.

[–] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You should have invested in the exploration of America

war and peas vomic depicting a vampire that acquired wealth by investing soon

[–] ExhibiCat@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Funny thing is, in 1792 $10 would have been a big load of money

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 1 points 2 hours ago

How may millions before inflation?

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 86 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Not everybody can fucking participate, Vijay.

Also, you can't do basic arithmetic.

[–] Vinny_93@lemmy.world 60 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Well based on the principle of compounding interest I think that number might be right. It really kind of depends on your returns every month.

His logic flaw here is that millions gamble on startups like that and hindsight is very much 20/20.

Buying stocks is kind of like sports betting for a different target audience this way.

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s why you’re only supposed to invest in successful ideas, duh.

[–] IAmTheKernelError@piefed.social 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's always a good idea, before investing in any company, to call the head office and say "I need a straight answer, so don't give me the runaround: will you fail?". If they say "no", it is a safe investment. If they say "yes", it is not quite as safe an investment but you may still want to invest.

[–] Jimbabwe@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wow, the real investment tips are once again buried deep in the comments

[–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Before investing, freeze the company's CEO in a block of ice. If you still want to invest after chipping them out of the ice, it's probably a worthy investment.

[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 day ago

There's no compounding interest here. You have to look up what the share price was every month for 28 years to find out how many shares you would buy (after trade fees) and then also keep track of share splits and dividend payments. Finally you add the total dividend with share number multiplied with current share price. I promise you that Perplexity AI didn't do a single step of this. Instead it put down something that sounds likely.

Finally you have to throw all of this away since the premise is completely flawed. It's not Jeff specifically but the fact that capital is taxed less than labour people are protesting.

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[–] Part4@infosec.pub 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If you'd invested $100 a month as amazon lost money for years driving 'mom and pop' businesses, starting with those evil bookshop owners, out of business before exploiting monopoly, getting local authorities to pay to host their distribution centres while the employees need food stamps to survive, you'd be rich now. Capitalism works.

Bezos, former hedge fund guy who was given hundreds of thousands from family to start amazon, knows he is despised. He actually personifies the phrase 'shit-eating grin'.

[–] brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Capitalism works when people can participate

OK then, let's allow all people to participate by giving everyone their fair share of Amazon and other big businesses.

I'm all for communising them. I'm just not sure that capitalism is the right expression for that, but I can't come up with a better word...

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[–] Schwim@lemmy.zip 10 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

And if you're 18 and can't afford housing, remember, his birth date could have been your birth date.

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 1 points 2 hours ago

The early bird gets the worm!

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Wow so smart, "Capitalism works when people can participate." FUCK OFF. How about the obscene number of people living paycheck to paycheck or rely on credit cards to get by. They literally don't have $100 to invest in anything other than their daily survival. And it gets worse every day as the cost of living goes up and real purchasing power remains stagnant for so many.

Capitalism works when people can participate - wake me up when these people can participate.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

According to Perplexity...

And already I cannot trust your argument on anything whatsoever because you used an LLM to try and prove your point.

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[–] ideonek@piefed.social 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Thanks, it's really comforting to know that I could've been participating in exploitation of workers and sellers myself. Monopolized markets are working, guys!

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[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

i don't want capitalism to work. I want it to die with Bezos and all those who invested 100$ or more in Amazon

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 8 points 1 day ago

Well, why weren't you investing 100 USD in Amazon every month since 1997, Vijay? Or since 2007?

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