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[–] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is a great example of how conspiracy theories are: There are some bits that are quite true, but they are connected in such a weird and completely wrong way that you wonder how it even came to this.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

That the problem with religions, they are not searching hypotheses to explain observed Phenomens, they search hypotheses to explain in what they believe, ignoring facts.

[–] FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world 101 points 6 days ago
[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 73 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I was homeschooled my entire childhood. My mom was a Christian. Not a crazy zealot, just a woman with faith. Initially, my school books were through a Christian curriculum program (I believe abeka books, iirc). One of my textbooks had this module on dinosaurs, with little pictures of humans in leopard print look clothes picking berries while a brontosaurus walked by in the background. My mom, ever the fantastic mother, immediately tossed those pieces of garbage and got me on the state curriculum that the public schools used. Took her forever to get it. Initially, when she called the state to ask how to get those resources she was told to stick with abeka, and was offered several other insane religious options before they finally relented. From then on, even though we lived in Virginia, my school standard came out of California, and I had to take end of year tests that aligned with the state of California. I got a great education, and because Mama let me basically choose what hours of the day I did my schoolwork in, I didn't really need to take summers off. Ended up finishing 12th grade at 14 years old. I am so thankful that she realized how bad those books were, and fought to make sure, even as a single mother working well over full time, that her kids got a good education. My brother and I both placed highest in the state when we took our final exams, in everything but math.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 20 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

What a coincidence! I had a very similar path! My elementary mis-education was largely a fundie school using Abeka as well. Their weird religious nationalism was so crazy when I look back on it. It's amazing they could actually publish this crap.

I wish I still had all the old books we had to get because that would make for a good laugh (and possibly an embarrassment campaign.)

Like c'mon we were kids how were we supposed to know? But also it just felt so bullshitty, like a written form of that awkward feeling you got when it was really obvious adults were lying to manipulate you and thought you were stupid.

It was in California, so eventually I had to move to the state curriculum also, around middle school, for my grades to actually count.

Honestly, that requirement saved my intellect. I went to a secular charter school where I was pushed into interacting with so many different people of different perspectives, and I would be a much crappier person without that experience.

Even today the damage isn't gone, there's still so much untangling and deprogramming to do.

These "curriculums" are child abuse.

After all that, I still kept my faith, not because of that upbringing, but in spite of it. That being said, I'm a Christian anarchist now. I make a point to counter this anti-intellectual, anti-Jesus, pro-fascist propaganda mongering wherever I can.

For what it's worth. . .I'm glad we both made it through the other side of being exposed to that slop.

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[–] AntEater@discuss.tchncs.de 83 points 6 days ago (12 children)

We homeschooled our kids for non-religious reasons. Most of the commercially available books, materials and curriculums were Christian oriented. While I am a Christian (although not a conservative) I found some of the materials just flat out intellectually insulting, factually incorrect, extremely biased (without the benefit of scriptural justification) and the above example is far from the worst of what I saw. It says a LOT about where your faith actually lies if you have to promote a false reality to justify it.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago

We briefly homeschooled during the pandemic, and like you we're non-conservative Christians. When our Christian friends asked about our curriculum, they always wrinkled their noses at the fact that it said "secular curriculum" on the cover. We told them, "you don't understand how weird the home school curriculum business is. Trust me, it's way easier to take this curriculum and add the values we want to impart than to take all the Christian nationalism out of the religious curriculum."

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It says a LOT about where your faith actually lies if you have to promote a false reality to justify it.

The irony is that such fundamentalists rely on so much engineering, built on layers of scientific research, for what they do (like eating. And housing. And recruitment. And printing and distributing that textbook), and... yeah. It'd be like a flat-earther in orbit. It's beyond ironic: it's just not a possible situation without the help of outsiders refuting that belief.

I have a lot more respect for the Amish, isolated monks, folks that take their beliefs seriously and consistently in their lifestyle.

My brother and sister-in-law homeschooled their kids for a while, which was a bit out of character for them. It turned out they were actually sending them to a private school that was technically "home schooling" because the parents taught the kids at home one day out of the week using school-provided materials and the kids were at the school the other four days. That one day a week allowed the technical "home schooling" designation and also allowed the school to use non-state-certified teachers (with the added bonus of being able to pay them hourly and only for four days of work a week). And all of this was only marginally cheaper than normal private schools. My bro and SIL eventually realized how shitty this was all around and moved into a good school district - which was way cheaper than private schools.

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[–] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 45 points 6 days ago

Looking back when I was growing up I think the most nefarious thing about books like this is that printing gave a lot of implied legitimacy because it was expensive to print a book.

Speaks to how much money these people had to miseducate people.

[–] Benchamoneh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (10 children)

My brother in America I have felt electricity and I can say exactly what it's like.

If you still don't believe though I will gladly share the secret of how to feel it for yourself. You need only bring a fork.

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[–] Stonewyvvern@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Used to live across the street from a Freewill Baptist Church.

Always curious about other beings mindsets, went and attended a service.

Walked through the main door and felt the trope of crickets chirping. No one greeted me, said hello, welcome, nothing. I was stared at but never acknowledged.

The service was strictly talking. No hyms or singing.

The sermon told me they are creationists that believe "Singing and dancing lead to temptation".

Point is their "educational materials" were horrifying. Mostly just fear mongering and advising self segregation from reality.

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[–] seejur@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Now, i usually don't advocate for book burning, but this one is making a compelling case

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

slow down there bud. burning the book would release co2 to the atmosphere and only return ashes and heat.

RECYCLING THE BOOK enables it to have a chance at being a better book, a book not fulla shit. a book someone should read. The tree that was cut down to make these ridiculous pages deserves better.

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[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (2 children)

And they think we're the brainwashed ones. lmao

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[–] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 34 points 6 days ago (3 children)

ISBN please— full title and author will help too

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[–] multifariace@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Why is there a 4th book? The way this book teaches, they don't even need a class.

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[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 15 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Electricity is the flow of electrons, (negative charge,) caused by one substance gaining electrons, and one substance losing electrons in a redox reaction. The thing that is oxidized loses electrons, and the substance that is reduced gains electrons. Oxidation is visible in nature via Rust. Water and oxygen gain electrons that are lost by the pure iron creating an iron oxide that is reddish brown. (Batteries have a + and - sign, hooking them up into a loop with a device creates the electricity that powers the device. Everyday batteries utilize zinc and a magnese oxide, but there are many other types of materials that are used in other types of batteries.) 25 years of this Christian faith homeschool bullshit; pretty clear why these dipshits voted trump.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's electricity by chemistry. Electricity by physics is done by moving a magnet relative to a wire, for example as the alternator in a car does

[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, can you tell I went to school for chemistry? I hadn't even thought about electromagnets or explaining circuits, capacitors and V = IR.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, my high school was history, history, maths, and maths, at least year 11 and 12 I did double maths and double history. I think I learnt more about electricity when I got into amateur radio, the licence for that is pretty detailed

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 30 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Fuckin magnets, how do they work?

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[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 20 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (8 children)

Index Tome 5

Meanwhile banned Books in Schools (Dangerous stuff)

I'm understanding more and more how a stupid pedo_asshole can be voted as president by so much people.

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[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 38 points 6 days ago

Tide comes in tide goes out. Can't explain that.

[–] the_wiz@feddit.org 22 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I somehow have the feeling that this is simply ragebait... if not, well... can someone please take away the printing press from those people? Please?

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Yeah it's not

I mean, this particular image might be, I don't know for sure, bit the content? Yeah, that's what the Bible thumpers wants taught.

Fuck Christianity, fuck all religions, it's the main cause of most of all suffering in world history

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[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Guess there are no Christian electricians then...

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[–] Kwakigra@beehaw.org 26 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This appears to be stupid, and it is, but it's mostly evil. Teaching children to accept absurdities and distrust evidence to make them easier to control.

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[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 21 points 6 days ago (2 children)

And with the dismantling of the US Department of education, things are going to get a lot, lot worse.

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[–] dalekcaan@feddit.nl 15 points 6 days ago (2 children)

This genuinely feels like a bit from Look Around You

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 20 points 6 days ago

This just in, no one has ever seen lightning, and if you say you have, we’ll have to burn you at the stake to protect the children.

[–] BlushedPotatoPlayers@sopuli.xyz 19 points 6 days ago (2 children)

This is for real? How is it even legal?

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[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I have seen electric, it’s blue and I have even felt it, it hurts. Also I know where it comes from, it comes from the walls, there’s an electric sockets for it.

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[–] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 14 points 6 days ago (4 children)
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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 15 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I'm curious what they think a lightning strike is.

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)

My Catholic school is more grounded to reality than this.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 28 points 6 days ago

Grounded? That sounds like electricity talk, or should I say WITCHCRAFT?!

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[–] Geodad@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Lightning comes from Zeus and Thor. Obviously. /s

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 days ago

Replace 'electricity' with 'wind' and/or 'moving air' and/or 'breath', and now you understand what Proto-Judaic Canaanites circa 800 BCE thought 'spirit' was.

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