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[–] IvyisAngy@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago

Oooh that hits.

I went to a doctor for a refill on ear infection medication. That's right a REFILL, for something that had been previously diagnosed by another doctor. I told him this, so many fucking times.

Nope. I had Covid.

"Sir, I just need a refill."

He just screamed at me, in broken English. "NO, YOU HAVE COVID. GO!"

I did not have Covid. I didn't even have a cough, a sneeze, or anything. My ear was in pain, and I couldn't hear hardly at all... and yah know... it was fucking bleeding.

I did not get the medication he prescribed me. I got ear drops from behind the counter and took allergy meds and then hopped for the best.

Brother, you didn't even have to examine me. I told you what was wrong. You could've gone home early!

[–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 38 points 4 days ago (5 children)

This is gonna hurt someone's feelings, but doctors don't call people fat unless they're overweight. It's just that, as a society, we are fucking delusional about obesity and lie to ourselves and others constantly, distorting what a healthy weight even looks like.

[–] Mesophar@pawb.social 25 points 4 days ago (18 children)

Sure, but sometimes (a lot of the time, from the experiences of multiple women in my life) doctors use "you're overweight" as a thought terminating phrase and won't even begin to look at other possible illnesses or treatments other than "you're overweight, you need diet and exercise".

By all means, if obesity is impacting their health it is something that needs to be addressed as well. That doesn't negate other health issues that happen to be comorbid with obesity, though.

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[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Okay, but being fat isn't relevant to someone's broken arm or many other diagnoses, the point is that they act like it is the only thing when it is clearly not that.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Being fat is a risk factor and a complicating for an alarming number of ~~considering~~ ailments. There's a reason why fat people get hammered at the doctors office about losing weight.

HOWEVER, the obesity epidemic in the US and other Western countries is a result of a fucked-up food system and an urban planning system that encourages a sedentary lifestyle. Like, individuals can choose to be less fat on their own, yes, but we're not going to make progress on this issue as a society unless we agree to change the fundamentals causing the problem.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (9 children)

It's because people crave and store fats when they have fat soluble vitamin deficiencies. A lot of people have a vitamin k deficiency, vitamin e deficiency, plus other fat soluble vitamins. Over time, these deficiencies lead to various issues, esp autoimmune ones. It isn't per se due to being fat, it is because they are deficient and out of balance. But we don't try to give them vitamins, we fucking starve them as punishment for being fat, making the deficiency much worse, and wonder why they can't maintain a diet or weight loss lol

Before you even start to argue against the idea that fat soluble vitamins play a role in autoimmune disease, obesity related diseases, etc, here are some studies on Type 2 diabetes and fat soluble vitamins:

"Vitamin A: a missing link in diabetes?" https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4623591/

"Association of plasma vitamin A level with type 2 diabetes mellitus: a community aging population-based cross-sectional study" "Totally, our data indicated the modifying effect of circulating lipids on the relationship between VA and T2DM. That might partly explain the discrepant conclusions in different studies regarding the association between VA nutritional status and the risk of T2DM" https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2213453024000909

"Combined effect of high-dose vitamin A, vitamin E supplementation, and zinc on adult patients with diabetes: A randomized trial" https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2090123220301223

"Effect of vitamin E intake on glycemic control and insulin resistance in diabetic patients: an updated systematic review and meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials" "We found that vitamin E intake significantly reduces levels of HbA1c, fasting insulin, and HOMA-IR in diabetic patients, particularly patients with T2DM. Also, a significant reducing effect of vitamin E intake on fasting blood glucose was found in studies with an intervention duration of < 10 weeks" https://nutritionj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12937-023-00840-1

"Does Vitamin D Have a Role in Diabetes?" "Although the function of vitamin D in regulating blood glucose is still not fully understood, vitamin D status appears to play a role in the onset and management of diabetes mellitus" https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9671203/

"What is the impact of vitamin D supplementation on glycemic control in people with type-2 diabetes: a systematic review and meta-analysis of randomized controlled trails" https://bmcendocrdisord.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12902-022-01209-x

"Effect of vitamin K2 on type 2 diabetes mellitus: A review" "Studies showed vitamin K2 intake reduced 7% T2DM risk with each 10-μg increment" https://www.diabetesresearchclinicalpractice.com/article/S0168-8227(17)31256-1/abstract

"Vitamin K2 supplementation improves impaired glycemic homeostasis and insulin sensitivity for type 2 diabetes through gut microbiome and fecal metabolites" https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-023-02880-0

"Beneficial Effects of Vitamin K Status on Glycemic Regulation and Diabetes Mellitus: A Mini-Review" https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/12/8/2485

"Effects of coenzyme Q10 supplementation on glycemic control: A GRADE-assessed systematic review and dose-response meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials" "CoQ10 supplementation has beneficial effects on glycemic control, especially in diabetes" https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(22)00332-7/fulltext

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[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 56 points 4 days ago (2 children)

For better or worse, if you weren't fat they wouldn't diagnose you properly either. I've been diagnosed with:

•Too skinny (this is particularly funny bc the complaint was fainting and both the low weight and fainting are from hyperthyroidism as I now know)

•Too tall

•'this is normal for young women' (if it were they'd all be unable to work traditional job)

•Psychosomatic ailment (depression on my medical record is the bane ofy existence)

•Just unlucky

•'this must be an unknown symptom of your existing illness'

•Lacking exercise (I do 2 hour long swims a week and walk 3-5k every weekday)

•Probably lying about the amount I drink (both water and alcohol)

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Is this problem with only having male doctors, or do women doctors pull this bullshit too?

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Women doctors have NEVER given me real pain control for endometriosis pain, even in the ER. After my surgery (which I woke up during and literally it was as painful as the periods I'd been having), I was given 3 days of opiates and then nothing (took 2 months to fully heal, was extremely painful for 2 weeks).

Meanwhile, one male ER doctor DID give me Robaxin one time as a muscle relaxer, and it was AMAZING. It took off that sharp edge of pain. I think he was very concerned about undoing stereotypes of male doctors and women's health. Love him, he is a good guy

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[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

I had a female doctor who loved to tell me I was too young to be experiencing the things I was experiencing. Like I had neck pain from an incident at work (which has been ongoing for like 10 years now) and she said "oh young people just look at their phones too much". I also had a reaction to a piercing and she was insistent that the problem was "piercings and tattoos are bad for you", yet when I swapped the ring out for a hypoallergenic one (no thanks to anything she had to say to me), it cleared up extremely quickly.

But anyway, she was at least able to diagnose my PCOS, which a male doctor had prematurely diagnosed as "pregnant" so that was nice.

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[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 17 points 4 days ago

I got kind of the opposite of that at the hands of a male doctor. "You can't have Long Covid, only women get it."

But the female doctor I got after that wasn't much better. Third female one is at least taking me seriously.

To have the fun of experiencing what doctors are like when you have a chronic illness play You're Just Imagining It.

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I had a female doctor, when told my joints hurt so much I couldn’t use my hands for basic tasks, say to me “Well what do you want ME to do about it??”

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Lol I swear to God I've told doctors my symptoms before and their face looks like they're thinking "Holy fuck, you should tell a doctor about that."

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I get the point but...

When you're a woman and well over 100kgs, don't complain about your doctor telling you that you need to lose weight.

It's not sexism

It's not discrimination based upon your weight

Nobody is telling you that you're ugly

It's not a macho thing where only skinny women are desirable

It's about your life, how long it will last and how much you'll be able to enjoy it. It's about your own health, please listen to your doctor and try to lose weight.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 7 points 3 days ago

That's not what OP is criticizing, heavy women come to the doctor with genuine health issues (which may be exacerbated by weight), and instead of addressing the actual problem, the doctor just tells the pt it's caused by weight.

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago (2 children)

“Anxiety” is the 21st century hysteria. Then it goes into your record so other doctors can summarily dismiss you as “difficult.”

I usually hear "stress"

[–] FundMECFS@quokk.au 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

This. It’s literally what most people who report physical symptoms but the doctor can’t find anything get diagnosed as.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (6 children)

I get why doctors go straight to, "It's the fat." It's not fair, but it's understandable.

Put yourself in the doctor's shoes. The majority of people they see are fat. Don't believe it? Look around the waiting room. First time I realized this was a revelation. My old doctor serves almost exclusively senior citizens, who got to be seniors by not being fat. Now I go to other, closer offices and I'm often the only person in the room who isn't overweight. And there's always some morbidly obese person with a cast on their leg. Wonder how that happened?

Imagine how many cases they get in a week that are due to obesity, or aggravated by it. It's kinda like doing tech support where you think you already know what the problem is because you see it every damned day. "sigh... another one". If you're sincerely listening, you'll often catch yourself out! But docs now days gotta run us through the office like herding cattle.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

They also have to talk to everyone like they’re a simpleton. I don’t like being on the receiving end of it, but I get it. I can only imagine how many people doctors see who have zero medical knowledge and need to gently be spoon-fed every bit of new information. It’s gotta be so frustrating, what with all the anti-science garbage filling society right now.

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[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (17 children)

That was the 20th century that they skipped I guess. We as a whole got so overweight that by the 21st century we just started defending it.

I feel bad posting that recognizing your name also runs a wholesome community..

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[–] JokeDeity@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

There's also catchall terms used for things they still don't really understand, like fibromyalgia.

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