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[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'll believe it when I actually see it.

I don't know much / anything about the particular crowd being referenced in that meme.

What I do know is my conservative neighbors, conservative family, and so on. These people legitimately and without any shame or self reflection believe that because they did not get "free healthcare" nobody else deserves it. They are unwavering in the belief that they should not have to pay for other people's medical bills. They truly think that anybody getting government healthcare (aside from retirees) is a leach on society and that they cannot afford to keep paying for those people.

I know this because I have conservative neighbors, conservative family members, and so on. And they aren't the least bit afraid to air their opinion on this any chance they get. Now I don't live in Nebraska USA, but I honestly have a hard time believing that conservatives in the midwest are all that different from conservatives on the east coast.

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 6 points 5 days ago (4 children)
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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Only boomers deserve universal health care, they worked hard for it 🤡

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago

Thank you boomers for destroying our planet with climate change. Here's one free healthcare to-go.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

i would work more if i found meaningful jobs. it feels like every job i could apply to is eventually just another gear in the machine that makes the wealthy wealthier and the people even more a fool of themselves. why do we give our workforce to people who are a cancer on society? the most ethical thing to do nowadays is to not participate on the labor market. we need community-run companies, then that's something i'd be willing to contribute to.

[–] BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Like a co-op? Michigan Sugar is like that. It's owned by 865 sugar beet farmers. I interned there in college. It was such a friendly environment. The plant I was at was over 100 years old, it was really cool.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Here's the thing about being unemployed and receiving unemployment benefits.

It doesn't support you. It isn't enough.

It's a supplement that you use as you also drain your actual savings so that you drain them slower. That's it. And while you're on it you can't do fucking anything. You can't go out. You can't do anything. You buy the cheapest food. You sit at home. You cut out all but your most basic bills. You aren't partying. And they eventually cut you off. The only way you're really gonna coast off social services long term is if you're disabled. And that's probably not a whole lot of fun either.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is this chode is trying to imply someone is going to just refuse to work forever and get free healthcare forever. But that's not realistic. They're going to run out of funds to exist. To eat. To have shelter. So do we cut people off healthcare when they're between jobs so they die and can never work again?

So it just makes sense to keep taking care of someone while they're unemployed because, in almost all instances, they're going to be employed again.

I'm trying to look at this without bringing morals into the equation because a significant portion of this country has no morals and doesn't care what happens to others. Clearly there's a moral obligation to help the weaker among us with social services we all chip into. It's what separates us from the animals. Hell, even a lot of animal species take care of their disadvantaged.

I'd go so much further than free healthcare.

Every person deserves a place to live, if they want one.

Every person deserves food, whether they can afford it or not.

Whether they work or not.

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)
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