I never expected to be cheering for 4-Chan and kiwi farms but it’s 2025 and nothing makes sense anymore.
this post was submitted on 27 Aug 2025
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The enemy of your enemy is your enemy's enemy. No more, no less.
But it's still fun to shake the jar and watch 'em fight!
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Literally the worst possible champions of this cause.
They come for the things nobody would be caught dead defending (often even people who privately engage in it) first. Look at how during the thing with payment processors and porn games, some people were saying they didn't mind if it were just the rape games being banned. Those are used as justification for speech restrictions to the public.
(I don't even think KiwiFarms should be legal personally, Chris Chan's story should be considered evidence enough that they're a harassment forum)
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Who cares? Nobody else is fighting this crap.
Now 4chan becomes the face of resistance to this shit, and people will think it is only being opposed by a bunch of deplorable incels. It delegitimizes the entire opposition - you can't speak out against it any more without being associated with 4chan and whatever the fuck kiwi farm is.
At least that's the risk, and that's why I wish these sites would go die in a hole rather than involve themselves with things I care about.
whatever the fuck kiwi farm is.
Nazis.
Tbh, I don't know why a push by more left leaning sites hasn't happened? This would at the very least show the broader unpopularity of the age verification law among pretty much both sides.
One problem is that quite a lot of left leaning people support this. Certainly in the UK the Labour Party has been paternalistic for a long time, thinking that the public are not able to look after themselves when it comes to having liberties. On issues like this there's little between labour and Tories, with them swapping places quite frequently.
We haven't had a socially liberal government in 70 years at least.
Because they have too much shame.
It takes the shameless to stand for freedom most of the time.
Which means frequently it's the worse kinds of people, the loudest and the most shameless. Who start. Others then follow once the ice is broken.
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Freedom is always and exclusively freedom for the one who thinks differently.
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Heartbreaking: the worst person you know just made a great point
And it's kinda funny to see it breaks so many people's brain.
Is it really so complicated to support them suing UK over OSA, without supporting the sites themselves?
NO, there has to be a good guy who only does good things and a bad guy who only does bad things!
--Lemmy
2003: If our privacy and freedoms on the internet are ever in peril, don't worry, there will be an uprising and our governments and tech corporations will come to our defense.
2025: i did NOT have 4chan will come to our aide on my bingo card....
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Where's that worst person you know makes a good point headline when you need it
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Kiwi farms? You mean the website that harrasses people online, Swats people, and basically does shit that is illegal in the UK anyway?
Next you'll tell me child porn sites are suing the UK. Fuck the Online Safety Act, but yeah, they're not the people who should be suing the UK over this.
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Is there some way they could both lose?
Uk loses the case, both Kiwi and 4chan go into debt from legal fees? (They're definitely not making bank)
Hey 4Chan was a big reason behind no one taking Scientology seriously anymore
Project 2025 and Curtis Yarvin have direct ties to 4chan as well. Maybe not the horse you wanna hitch to.
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Their lawsuit will fail for the simple reason they only have to age verify UK citizens, not everyone. But it does go to show how stupid this law actually is. If the UK wanted to block 4chan (for example) to under 18s, then ISPs should provide optional filtering software with every account that can be enabled per device to do it. It would be far more effective than expecting websites around the world to police the UK's own laws.
nazi porn-enjoyers vs nazi government ultimate showdown
if kiwi farms was a person I would bully the crap out of it until it shit it's pants and then I'd lock it in a closet with its shitpants
If kiwi farms was a person, I'd throw them off a bridge and shit on their broken corpse
Wow.
You must be a fan, to be so light and kind about it.
Oh no, they might dox the PM, call him a lolcow, and SWAT 10 Downing.
So 4chan that said they wouldn't pay the UK fine as the UK doesn't have jurisdiction over companies based in the USA is going to sue UK over stuff that 4chan can't be responsible for?
4chan will sue the UK trying to hold them responsible for UK law, in US court. Foreign judgement limiting freedom of speech. Seems to be in line with their strategy of not being an UK company so not paying fines: "Your laws don't apply to us. Hell, they aren't even constitutional!".
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Good.
Everyone should sue those fuckers. Taking away the last pieces of our freedom.
If the world goes to shit but Kiwi Farms is destroyed, I will have a moticum of warmth in my blood.
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