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Linux phones are still behind android and iPhone, but the gap shrank a surprising amount while I wasn’t looking. These are damn near usable day to day phones now! But there are still a few things that need done and I was wondering what everyone’s thoughts on these were:

1 - tap to pay. I don’t see how this can practically be done. Like, at all.

2 - android auto/apple CarPlay emulation. A Linux phones could theoretically emulate one of these protocols and display a separate session on the head unit of a car. But I dont see any kind of project out there that already does this in an open-source kind of way. The closest I can find are some shady dongles on amazon that give wireless CarPlay to head units that normally require USB cables. It can be done, but I don't see it being done in our community.

3 - voice assistants. wether done on device or phoning into our home servers and having requests processed there, this should be doable and integrated with convenient shortcuts. Home assistant has some things like this, and there’s good-old Mycroft blowing around out there still. Siri is used every day by plenty of people and she sucks. If that’s the benchmark I think our community can easily meet that.

I started looking at Linux phones again because I loathe what apple is doing to this UI now and android has some interesting foldables but now that google is forcing Gemini into everything and you can’t turn it off, killing third party ROMS, and getting somehow even MORE invasive, that whole ecosystem seems like it’s about to march right off a cliff so its not an option anymore for me.

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[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

…they still have Linux phones?

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

google is forcing Gemini into everything and you can’t turn it off,

You can still shut off Gemini as of right now. I don't know what it'll be like in the future though.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Google said they are going to make it so you can turn off directly interacting with Gemini but it will always be running in the background, spying on you.

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[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

I fallback to a deGoogled phone precisely because Linux phone isn't up to my expectation in terms of convenience for now.

You can check my post history but just during the last few days :

... so yes, not there yet

PS: on "assistant" (I really think the naming is over-blowing capabilities) I have been using HomeAssistant daily for years now. I have a Nabu Casu on my shelf... and didn't even set it up because it was either 3rd party service dependencies (not why I rely on HA) or a very complex setup. So... I would recommend not looking there, at least few months ago when I received mine, sadly.

[–] danhab99@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

3 - voice assistants. wether done on device or phoning into our home servers and having requests processed there, this should be doable and integrated with convenient shortcuts. Home assistant has some things like this, and there’s good-old Mycroft blowing around out there still. Siri is used every day by plenty of people and she sucks. If that’s the benchmark I think our community can easily meet that.

Of all the things that my phone is supposed to be able to do this is the one thing I never touch. It has never worked better for me than just doing it with my own two thumbs.

Does anyone actually use their voice to control their phone (not voice typing)?

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[–] ki9@lemmy.gf4.pw 3 points 1 week ago

Voice assistant through homeassistant is great. You can plug into an AI. There are guys using the SIP plugin to dial chatgpt from a landline.

https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/15jjkkm/i_built_chatgpt_into_my_rotary_phone_and_made_it/

Of course, you can also self host AI models if you have the hardware. I'm not there myself yet... but the tech is ready.

[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

I was wondering what everyone’s thoughts on these were:

  1. It doesn't work on GrapheneOS either, so I got separate devices I carry with me that do the tap-to-pay instead, and they've been a godsend. They're super compact as well and came for free when I opened the accounts.

  2. I don't own a car, on ebike I use my screen.

  3. Normally I use my fingers. If they're not available I yell cuss words at my phone until they're available again.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Damn near usable day to day" - what I've been hearing about Linux since the beginning of time

[–] procapra@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe not true for phones, but the linux desktop IS usable day to day, and I'd say this has been true for atleast the last 5 years. KDE and GNOME are both fully fledged desktops, and with the popularity of snaps and flatpaks there isn't really alot getting in the way of software installation either. Even wine/proton has come so far I don't see the "linux bad for gaming" as an actual excuse anymore.

I started using linux exclusively on desktop in 2021 and I'm not any kind of programmer or anything, just a regular user. :)

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah that's what I'm saying, desktop finally seems to be there so we can expect phones to get there in a mere 20-25 years when everyone is using Neuralink or whatever

[–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So in other words they're perfectly suited for day to day use?

I have zero need for any of the janky bullshit features you listed, so this is great news!

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