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[โ€“] camelbeard@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Trains are good for short distances, like going to work.

When you compare trains to planes, why would you take a train for a long distance journey? It takes much longer to get there and it's also more expensive.

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ye but what if i have to go to a tiny village that has no public transport nearby

[โ€“] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 0 points 1 year ago

I live in the country and shop for two weeks. OP can eat a dick. Unless they are into that, then they can eat something they don't like.

[โ€“] Treczoks@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (17 children)

If only public transport was actually a usable replacement for using a car. Hint: It isn't.

In the next town, the mayoress claims to like bikes, and "reforms" the city. So far all she managed were some cheap fixes like painting bike paths on roads and making some key connections useless for non-bike traffic. Which led to - more car-traffic, as now many cars have to drive nearly once around the city to reach their destination. What it didn't lead to - a significant move to use of bikes and public transport, as the bike paths are not really safe and mostly patchwork, anyway, and public transport is too expensive and basically useless to anyone from outside the city.

I'm not against a bike-friendly city. But you can have good implementations and seriously bad ones.

And asking people to "stop driving cars" is a very narrow-minded and stupid idea from the start. There are a lot of reasons to drive a car. I mean, do you expect that they stock the supermarkets with cargo bikes? Do you want to force old people who cannot use the tram as it has high and steep stairs for entries to, what, walk into the city? Do you think the plumber or electrician will come to fix your flat with all the tools on a bike?

This "stop driving cars" is an idea cooked up by young and able people who live in the city and usually don't leave it. Who maybe use a bike to ride to the next shop two roads over, or to university. And who actually can go on even longer rides occasionally, if they must. They have nothing better to do. Those who bear not much responsibility and drive, well, like bikers in a city, feeling overconfident and ignorant of the risk of dangerous driving behavior.

[โ€“] Gabu@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Are you braindead or just a rightwinger? It's difficult to tell, sometimes.

Have you ever heard about other countries existing? Not everywhere is a car-centric shithole.

[โ€“] Treczoks@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

I don't live in that car-centric shithole. So much for assumptions.

And I take calling me "rightwinger" as a serious insult.

There are cities in my country that managed to strike a good balance between cars and bikes. E.g. with continuous bike paths and stuff like that. But most cities here have two problems: They simply jump short with bike paths and leave safe bike access as a crazy patchwork on the city map, making it more or less useless. And they keep public transport back because it actually costs money.

I've nothing against bikes. Occasionally I rant against stupid and irresponsible bikers, of which there are too many, and that give normal bikers a bad name. I would love to see bike-friendly cities, but I also see cities stumbling around like a beheaded chicken when it comes to implementation.

So, as long as public transport is no usable alternative, a city has to deal with cars as a means of people coming into a city as workers and customers. The alternative would be a city that completely relies on local people. Might be environment friendly, but simply not realistic. They just don't have the purchase power to keep a cities businesses alive.

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