this post was submitted on 28 Sep 2025

334 points (96.9% liked)

Android

32110 readers

24 users here now

DROID DOES

Welcome to the droidymcdroidface-iest, Lemmyest (Lemmiest), test, bestest, phoniest, pluckiest, snarkiest, and spiciest Android community on Lemmy (Do not respond)! Here you can participate in amazing discussions and events relating to all things Android.

The rules for posting and commenting, besides the rules defined here for lemmy.world, are as follows:

Rules

1. All posts must be relevant to Android devices/operating system.

2. Posts cannot be illegal or NSFW material.

3. No spam, self promotion, or upvote farming. Sources engaging in these behavior will be added to the Blacklist.

4. Non-whitelisted bots will be banned.

5. Engage respectfully: Harassment, flamebaiting, bad faith engagement, or agenda posting will result in your posts being removed. Excessive violations will result in temporary or permanent ban, depending on severity.

6. Memes are not allowed to be posts, but are allowed in the comments.

7. Posts from clickbait sources are heavily discouraged. Please de-clickbait titles if it needs to be submitted.

8. Submission statements of any length composed of your own thoughts inside the post text field are mandatory for any microblog posts, and are optional but recommended for article/image/video posts.

Community Resources:

We are Android girls*,

In our Lemmy.world.

The back is plastic,

It's fantastic.

*Well, not just girls: people of all gender identities are welcomed here.

Our Partner Communities:

!android@lemmy.ml

founded 2 years ago

MODERATORS

MargotRobbie@lemmy.world

Rooki@lemmy.world

L3s@lemmy.world

_MoveSwiftly@lemmy.world

334

This Linux phone with Android app support has three kill switches for complete privacy (www.yankodesign.com)

submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by Suoko@feddit.it to c/android@lemmy.world

54 comments fedilink hide all child comments

Here is a video of android apps:

https://youtu.be/L7ZEUvl2oXA

top 50 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 94 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

De-junked url: https://www.yankodesign.com/2025/09/23/this-linux-phone-with-android-app-support-has-three-kill-switches-for-complete-privacy/

This is the "Furi" phone that runs Debian underneath. As I remember it was around $550 for a phone with no headphone jack, no SD slot, and the usual sealed battery (no idea about replacements but maybe that info is somewhere). There was another thread about it a few days ago.

I'm not that excited but maybe others here will be.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 51 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It says on the article it can take SD cards up to 1tb, and according to a reddit comment from someone who daily drives one, it has a removable back panel and battery.

[–] Suoko@feddit.it 28 points 2 weeks ago

Actually they have a video on yet about a removable battery which is also waterproof, maybe the new model though.

I never heard about this phone before, but its android container seems very well engineered. I wonder how banking apps and android auto behave

[–] toothpaste_sand@lemy.nl 16 points 2 weeks ago

I mean—it's a good step in the direction of an actually usable Linux phone. And that would be great, being able to get a mobile OS outside of Google / Apple's influence.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah. The original before this had a jack, etc. Actually want the original but apparently theyre not selling it anymore.

[–] weirdo_from_space@sh.itjust.works 39 points 2 weeks ago

The fact of this gets posted and upvoted on !android@lemdro.id shows how much goodwill Google burned with the enthusiast community.

[+] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (14 children)

[deleted]

[–] MicrowavedTea@infosec.pub 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Because of the stupidly large screen and since Google keeps taking away android functionalities it might be good as a mini computer along with a cheap android device that you actually keep in your pocket.

[–] joshchandra@midwest.social 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

No, just convert any laptop into Linux if you want an open-source computer. All these phablets are extremely unfriendly to people with hand pain/injuries. Bigger is not better and I really wish manufacturers knocked this off. Screens also dig into battery life tremendously.

[–] dRLY@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I personally like large screens due to being able to see more (do have to mess with scaling and font sizes to force browsers). Though I do find that I can only do "serious" work with actual PCs (even tablets don't "feel" right). Some things make more sense as having a mouse and keyboard are easier to just do things. But other times I can only describe trying to use small screens (including my large phones and tablets) as kind of a digital "claustrophobia" of sorts. Though some of that is because of touch interfaces/UX can't show as many options/menus and the keyboards take up more of the space.

Though I do hate that we don't see more compact flagship level options for folks that like them or need them. Apple is like the best option as far as losing fewer functions, and Samsung does still make a point of having a non-plus version of their main yearly releases.

As far as the screen size impacting battery. I think that the opposite is seen from the times I have heard it brought up. The larger body allows for more battery space. I believe that when I was looking at smaller phones for a friend that was thinking that a small screen would help reduce his desire to distract himself from being always on his phone. That one thing I saw people/articles mention was how one down-side for smaller phones was literally how they needed to charge more often to make it through the day. I think the resolution and refresh rates make the most impact on battery. As I remember my S8+ could do like 2k resolution, but in the settings it would mention that battery life might be less than if I picked 1080p. Which would still be an issue if I had the non-plus version.

[–] joshchandra@midwest.social 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My problem is that phones with any width greater than 71mm feel painful to use after a while. The keyboard feels too stretched out and harder to type on as well.

load more comments (1 replies)

load more comments (13 replies)

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"This Linux phone"

Stupid ass clickbait title.

It's the Furi Labs FLX1s (which seems to be a downgrade of the FLX1)

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 4 points 2 weeks ago

For the same price, too. Dumb

[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The recent Android side loading debacle was unexpected and unwanted. However, I hope to see more Linux phone development. It won't all be brilliant, but that's evolution.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 6 points 2 weeks ago

Gotta start with throwing shit against a wall & and keeping what sticks. First iterations are usually messy.

[–] glitching@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 weeks ago

them dudes should allow us paupers to get at the "furyos" with our shitty $50 phones. or at least put the evidently complete product it in the hands of someone who ran linux phones (i.e. experience with mobian, pmOS, phosh, etc) instead of confused youtubers swiping the same two screens left/right not undestanding dick about the issues.

I am not spending a multiple of the total of all my hardware combined in order to find out it has the same performance and issues my oneplus 6t with mobian has.

y'all with the graphenes and co., respectfully, you don't understand what you're talking about.

[–] GrapheneOSRuinedMyPixel@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

why? why is this thing being posted so much everywhere?

linux phone

actually halium

hardware kill switches

I guess I just can't see the utility vs leaving the phone at home since I don't arrange 3AM deals by the docks

android app support

all we see is a shaky recording of a screen that looks like some gui to control waydroid settings

we have actual hardware now that works really well, has almost mainline linux kernel support, does not rely on oem hacks and proprietary blobs on top of android kernels to be useful, and is available now for $50 second hand in good condition

[–] weirdo_from_space@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you mean postmarketOS compatible phones? Because I don't see what else you could be talking about in regards to phone hardware with mainline Linux.

[–] GrapheneOSRuinedMyPixel@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yes, I mean the 2018 era SDM845 bunch of phones. They mostly work. While postmarketOS is the community that made linux on phones possible, it is not the only thing that you can run on these, there is actual choice. I personally liked Mobian very much.

Making linux phones more widely adopted will require wider community interest and halium is just not the way forward.

Edit: screenshot to illustrate my point, my OnePlus 6T running NixOS in UEFI mode (based on this writeup by /u/chayleaf@lemmy.ml:

spoiler

[–] glitching@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

thanks for the linked writeup, always new stuff to learn.

I'm on 6T and mobian, how's your luck with taming cameras?

[–] GrapheneOSRuinedMyPixel@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago

haha, none at all! I've spent like 6 months trying to boot normal NixOS instead of mobile-nixos, got it booting last week, almost nothing works, currently I'm trying to build a newer kernel and maybe fix sound.

I quite like the boot chain that I achieved (bootloader -> tianocore EDK II UEFI from Renegade Project -> normal systemd-boot) and I also installed the whole thing via USB by mounting disks directly.

On Mobian I think at least one camera did work but was purple all over, never actually tested the hardware on android.

All mobile distributions ship without kernel modules that I need, compiling manually on every update is not really sustainable, this is the reason why my setup is so convoluted.

[–] MuttMutt@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Reminds me of AN0M https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Trojan_Shield

[–] GrapheneOSRuinedMyPixel@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I always wondered why anyone would choose to use that instead of Signal and GrapheneOS. I mean, removing cameras and microphones is a great tactic, but why use some shady software instead of something that was proven to work many times? Even if that service was authentic, how long would it take for law enforcement to learn about it, seize the servers and collect metadata? There must be people who are competent in tech and also happen to be cartel members.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

GrapheneOS didn't exist back then lol

[–] GrapheneOSRuinedMyPixel@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

I've read somewhere that the massive explosion in popularity happened in 2020 when someone stole and cloned the PCs that were used to install the ROMs on Android phones. By then GrapheneOS head dev's conflict with CopperheadOS team was very widely publicized and GrapheneOS's security debate was impossible to miss.

Anyway, here's a phone and a messaging app that will only be provided to you and other criminals, it is very secure

[–] 4k93n2@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago

that button placement looks pretty bad. the 3 switches are right where you would be grabbing the phone. the power button looks like its on the opposite side to the volume button so when you go to change the volume (with one hand) youre likely to press the power button by accident.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Interesting.

[–] Suoko@feddit.it 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Yes , it's got decent hardware, but they should cut the price off in half

[–] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

While I agree with that, they don't have the luxury of scale of mass production, so it's not possible for them (yet hopefully)

[–] Suoko@feddit.it 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I know prices may be higher but check this: https://www.techwalls.com/production-costs-of-smartphones

If you go to china and go to a factory they will show you the menu where you can choose the components from, you just give them the 3d cad file of the desired form factor. And prices are the one I linked. You have to customize android, I know, and spend on marketing, but that's it

load more comments (2 replies)

[–] Omer_Ash@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Big companies sell their expensive phones for cheap because they'll get their money selling your data and showing you ads. A phone like this won't get any money out of you other than the money you give when buying the phone. So it makes sense that it's pricey.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

"Big companies sell their high end phones for cheap"

What crack rock are you sleeping under? I can buy a street legal used vehicle for less than the "latest and greatest" samsung or Apple phone.

[–] Omer_Ash@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The truth is, if it wasn't for data collection, these phones would be more expensive than this. So yeah, they are cheap compared to their price if companies didn't collect user data.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago

I know there's other costs associated (like the engineering and advertising) , but I happen to know with the iPhone 13 pro they were making about $400 per device. I doubt those margins have shrunk much, if at all, since then.

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

The response time looks really slow in the video. Not sure I've ever seen a loading logo for the settings menu before.

[–] waldo_was_here@piefed.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

No thanks, I stay with grapheneOS for the moment

[–] Eh_I@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Can I just stun them instead?

load more comments