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Took me too long to understand why my birthday was always so full of strife.
Turns out, it's the end of the fiscal year.
Happy birthday! I got you a government shutdown.
Fuck! That's what I got him to!
Uhhhhh, we all pooled together to get them a government shutdown?
Aww jeez guys, why did no one tell me? All I got them was a whiny Lemmy comment, this is just embarrassing.
The party that practically trademarked government shutdowns now want you to believe they aren't responsible and would never want such a thing.
Even though we ordered our representatives not to negotiate and we ordered them not to show up when the Democrats all did. We really wanted to avoid this. Yeah right.
I kinda would have liked to see what would have happened if the Democrats said yes to all their demands.
The only silver lining I see is that the Democrats didn’t. Still, having a mirror in that other dimension would be interesting (if likely depressing)
Yet still, the Democrats totally face planted this. Only people chronically in political news even know why they bothered to not approve the budget. They chose to die on a hill of a nuanced policy stance that doesn't play well in headlines. Gargantuan missed opportunity to make it a populist movement to shut down the govt for something nearly everyone can get behind like minimum wage increases, ending ICE raids, etc.
They chose to die on a hill of a nuanced policy stance that doesn't play well in headlines.
I'm seeing them take the right stance and say they were doing this to keep healthcare
The Republicans shut down the government to prevent the release of the Epstein files.
I fucking hate bearing witness of a slow collapse of a world power from where I'm sitting at... It's been almost ten months since that fucking day.
This shutdown is just one of the steps towards what amounts to a mafia dictatorship by committee.
Ok what the hell is going on? I know the American government has "shutdown" before but don't Trump's party have a majority in both houses of congress? What's in the way of them doing...whatever it is they want to do?
This is another method to destroy the government. They are planning to use the shutdown for mass layoffs. Here's a quick video explaining the topic.
I'm not in a situation where I can watch videos right now, but I've heard this argument and I don't buy it. Are you telling me that this regime, which has been flouting laws and regulations and norms to do mass layoffs already, and shrugging at every judicial slap on the wrist that has come as a result, even to the point of bringing in a private citizen to go around with a chainsaw and destroy workforces and agencies he doesn't understand— you're telling me that this regime, the most lawless in recent American history, the one that cares far more about appearances and feelings than facts and is so disorganized as to have trouble organizing a church potluck, this one— they suddenly have their act together enough and value the rule of law enough to engineer an unbelievably unpopular government shutdown, in order to justify an unbelievably unpopular layoffs of government workers, when they could clearly just do it anyway with no repercussions?
Yeah, I don't buy it. I don't see any 4D chess here, I just see tic-tac-toe being played in elephant manure.
The courts ordered many of those people fired by DOGE cuts to be returned to their jobs.
This is a way to starve those people out in a way that the courts can’t intervene.
The court order was good, but as far as I can tell (1) most of the people who were fired have already moved on to other jobs (or understandably don't want it back under this admin); and (2) I haven't seen much evidence of the administration actually complying with this court order.
You know, the only coherent response to this I can come up with is just incredulity. I'm not trying to be mean about this, but this comment reeks of someone not paying attention or just very naive. Given how Project 2025 laid out plans for dismantling the federal government and we've seen them take coordinated and planned out steps to implement this already, why is this so unbelievable to you?
they suddenly have their act together enough and value the rule of law enough to engineer an unbelievably unpopular government shutdown, in order to justify an unbelievably unpopular layoffs of government workers, when they could clearly just do it anyway with no repercussions?
Why do you think they wouldn't try to do both illegal and quasi-legal methods? What makes you think they wouldn't engineer a situation that lets them use a different legal strategy to try to make it work when they've tried, and arguably failed, to reduce the workforce through other methods?
I mean, pretend that the trump administration is as dumb as trump and not backed by fuckers like the heritage foundation (that has been implementing a plan to effectively destroy America as we know it for decades) at your own peril. They will try any and every way they can to enact their end goals, don't fall for the doddering old fool who shoots their plans in the foot and not see the people desperately trying to not footgun themselves with the fucking moron as the face of the movement.
Constant state of fear and confusion is pretty much the normal now.
They need a larger majority of 60/100 in the Senate to my understanding, and while they have a majority they don’t have the 60 necessary to pass the spending bill. They need at least some Democrats to cross the floor and I don’t think any are willing.
3 did break party line. Fetterman, some guy from Maine and I think a gal from Arizona?
Fwiw, on the Republican side, Rand Paul broke from their party line and voted against the stopgap funding measure.
Say it with me kids…. “sleepy joe!” Or something. I dunnno. Trump is a pedo btw.
So... ICE isn't getting paid right now?
I'm sure they are, it's those guys who do unimportant work, like making sure the forests aren't going up in flames and consuming the nation, or helping out people who are about to die from starvation, exposure etc, those are the useless ones who don't get paid.
It's a fucked up system.
Government shutdowns have been happening for years, they should just make it an official holiday week
Of course it’s also one of the biggest causes of “waste, fraud and abuse” in government. So far they have always paid people retroactively. They need to. But that means that congress screwing around not doing their job, causes millions of workers to sit at home doing nothing while still eventually getting paid.
I know this time they’re threatening permanent firings but they’ll always find something worse to threaten. It’s time to stand our ground.
If MAGAts care enough about depriving millions of healthcare, let them shut it down. If MAGAts care about illegal firings that will bog the government down in lawsuits for decades, let them shut it down. If MAGAts care enough about denying medical rights to any marginalized groups, let them shut it down. If MAGAts want to impose martial law, let them shut it down
On a similar note, I have a friend who is a government auditor. Most of her coworkers were DOGEd several months ago. Now that it's the end of the fiscal year, they realized they needed all those auditors back.
So they've attempted to rehire them. Except some don't want to come back having retired or found new jobs.
The ones that did come back got 100% back pay for the time they were let go. So we essentially paid them to do nothing.
But also, they get their backdated PTO that they would have earned. Except they can only carry over a PTO balance of so much without losing it, so everyone that came back immediately had to go on PTO.
So not only did we pay them for nothing, we also brought them back to pay them for nothing. All while making the government actively worse.
The Department of Government Efficiency, ladies and gentlemen.
Just a form letter at this point.
Republicans do ________.
Republicans blame everyone else for the negative results.
Of course they're blaming the Democrats. And MAGA asks, "Well, what were the Democrats wearing?" to validate the victimization.
WE DID IT. WE STOPPED THE GOVERNMENT. IT'S A GREAT, GREAT SHUTDOWN. PLAY GOLF. GOOD FOR AMERICA.
Americans are crazy
Americans need to be introduced to the concept of guillotine
Not all of us, but enough so that this generalization is entirely fair.
why didn't they just try changing senate rules lmao, or just ignore the parliamentarian? are the fascists this incompetent?
Don't take this as incompetent, they wanted the government to shutdown. They have something going on right now where if the government shut down, they were effectively ending a bunch of administrative positions in a reduction of force.
This shutdown is just one more way they are trying to destroy this country through destroying the mechanisms that run the government.
I miss the Car Talk days of NPR, just on my commute to night class today I get to hear them make the statement "Democrats shut down the government."
God this shit is disheartening.
click and clack the tap it brothers.
and whatever you do.. don't drive like my brother!
Dem's should amend their demands for congressional reversal of every Trump funding fascism attack. So far that includes $18B in NYC infrastructure funding and $8B in blue state renewable energy funding.
Dems/DNC should tell states to collect federal taxes and fund their states with them, instead of remitting them to US treasury. Or governors should invoke that right in support of ending GOP shutdown.
probably part of the plan to let programs and agencies they couldn’t legislate away die by attrition.
This reminds me of that pie chart someone put out several years back where the majority of it was labeled Christian, and the remainder was labeled "other" with the Christian part saying "help! We're being oppressed"
That's how I feel about the US government shutdown right now.
But what do I know? I don't even live in that shithole country.
Christians have a massive persecution and saviour complex. Its a core tenet of the lore.
is anyone surprised, its meant to prevent the epstein files from being released by thenewly elected house member.