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The local Portland chapter of the World Naked Bike Ride group posted, "Emergency World Naked Bike Ride coming up in response to the militarization of our city. Plans are being worked on."

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[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (4 children)

This feels good but I don't know that it's a good idea long-term. This may just antagonize the forces the feds send in even further, when they need to be reminded that we're all just Americans. Don't forget the cult deprogramming tactics:

Build rapport and trust. Rebuild your relationship, if it’s broken. If you were the one to break contact, apologize. Reach out and be warm. Remember the good times. Focus on common values and areas you both enjoy (children, pets, music, dancing, fishing, sports). At first, don’t talk about controversial topics. Avoid “hot topics.” Just try to connect with the other person and have positive interactions. Build credibility and sustain positive interaction. Build a long-term relationship based upon respect, compassion, and love.

Do what you can to remove or minimize media that continually indoctrinates to only one point of view. This may only apply to certain types of cult groups. But it may be in the form of social media, videos, or television. You can even agree to make a pact to go on a media fast together. Don’t make this about “them” or “their problem.” Make this a fun thing to do together as a “break.” Be prepared to honor requests on your end.

Ask thought-provoking questions while being warm and curious. Be prepared to listen deeply. You will know if you have listened well if you can repeat back to them what they said. Be humble and open to hearing what they say.

Keep conversations positive, productive, and civil. Never get angry. Stay resourceful. It is better to end the interaction than to say something counter-productive. It is better to return to the conversation at another time, rather than the person cutting off all communication out of anger or fear.

Adopt a general tone of curiosity and interest in their positions. Pretend you’re an impartial counselor. Really try to get inside their beliefs.

Try to connect them with their authentic identity before these extreme beliefs. Remind them of past experiences together. Talk about the connection you once had and how you miss it.

Don’t “tell” them anything. Help them to make discoveries on their own.

Try to get them to look at reality from many different perspectives. This can include many things.

Teach them about indoctrination and mind control. Use examples for which they have no attachment.

Use examples of cult leaders with similar qualities to their group's leader(s) and have conversations about it.

Share feelings and perceptions, not judgments. Use “I feel” statements. Don’t claim to be “right.” Stick to what your perception is when reflecting back to them.

Ask a question and then wait for them to think and respond. Be patient. You do not need to fill silence.

Caution: an abundance of facts won't necessarily help. Do not overwhelm them with information, especially if it attacks the leader or doctrine.

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't think a naked bike ride is gonna kill them.

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Probably do more to stop them than making friends with them would.

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Ah yes, the guy who single-handedly peacefully ended WW2 by befriending all of the nazis and convincing them to stop their war/genocide.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca -2 points 2 days ago

Why are you discrediting a person that I am very confident has had more of a positive effect than you have? Why are you issuing purity tests?

Also, link us your Wikipedia page

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[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca -4 points 2 days ago (17 children)

My uncle is a Republican, always has been. His views have only become truly toxic since Obama was elected and a propaganda/hate machine that had been slowly building momentum dropped a gear and went over the horizon. So for less than a 5th of his life he has been an asshole on Facebook and voted Republican and you think he and everyone like him, in the entire country, needs to be exterminated?

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[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Everybody on both sides is getting ready to kill their neighbors, it's fucking terrifying.

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[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

This is the sort of protest we needed.

That's it, people! We've reached peak Portland!

I would love to go to that

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Are wide saddles recommended for biking in the buff?

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