In other news, today is "no shit" day.
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looking to ditch hotmail after 25 years, noticed proton also offers vpn, may as well get that, i live in a red state
Proton, in my opinion, make the best VPN for people who need both mobile device support and port forwarding so they can be a good citizen with all those linux ISOs they torrent. I don't use their desktop client (I prefer to rawdog OpenVPN and Wireguard) but people like those.
Proton's email is dogshit. Don't get me wrong, it is awesome for making burners that many websites don't insta-block (although that is shifting). But you don't own your data unless you regularly run their nonsense client to tunnel into their servers. So if Proton goes shit tomorrow? All your emails are gone. Not a HUGE issue if you regularly fetch those but... yeah.
I've been backburnering it for other reasons but folk like (Not That) Will Smith and many others have been very big supporters of Fastmail and, looking at it, it seems pretty nice. And it fits my use case of using an email address at a domain I own so that I can just move between services depending on pricing and how evil corporations are in a given month.
Just to elaborate a bit. Migrating from JohnSmith@gmail to JohnSmith@hotmail to JohnSmith_75151515@proton is a massive undertaking.
Migrating from John@SmithDotOrg hosted by Foo to John@SmithDotOrg hosted by Bar is potentially under an hour depending on how you manage that domain and so forth.
No one gives a single flying fuck about owning their email generally. The number of people who actually care about that aspect basically can be counted on one hand compared to the total number of even technical people who understand what that means.
But you don't own your data unless you regularly run their nonsense client to tunnel into their servers. So if Proton goes shit tomorrow? All your emails are gone. Not a HUGE issue if you regularly fetch those but... yeah.
Tbf most people don't download offline copies, they just let all their email live on their provider's servers and never think twice.
Personally, I've used either Outlook or Gmail since 2000 and haven't ever had an issue getting access to my emails.
Which, again, is an issue if you need to get your McCauley on and get out the door in 5 minutes flat
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I imagine using the TOR browser would work as well.
It does, but can open a whole other can of worms....
You'll probably be unable to use it for major sites due to how much it's blocked due to abuse coming through Tor exit nodes.
Did you know the "hub" had a official onion mirror? It was back in 2020. i really hope they bring that back. afaik they never made a V3 onion address.
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If VPNs get outlawed for some reason in AZ, Tor is another option. Make sure you download it from their site sonce there are fake Tor apps in the playstores
The key with a VPN is to buy long term. I got a black friday deal for Proton last year that comes out to two dollars and pennies a month.
I mean if they ban pornhub they'll go after everything else so best get a VPN now.
