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Just got around to watching it for the first time tonight. We had so many people tell us we'd love it and need to watch it, so it was high on our list. Great cast, and it won so many awards.

I didn't hate it, but I was left scratching my head over all the hype. I like odd movies and books, so it's not that I couldn't handle the weirdness. It seemed like in the same vein as Scott Pilgrim, and if you told me it wasn't a bit box office but got a cult following, I'd totally believe that.

My wife felt exactly the same way. Maybe it's just one of those cases where there was too much hype for us, but I felt kind of let down.

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[–] TheControlled@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

My BFF didn't either and it baffles me.

[–] Welt@lazysoci.al 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Asian leads in a big budget Hollywood movie are a big deal for people who never see people who look like them on screen. That's where most of the hype came from - excitement (some of it manufactured and emphasised by media outlets to show they understand the value of progressive representation) from fans about a movie that has a lot of Asian, and especially Chinese, cultural references.

The movie was a bit wacky but I feel it squandered a lot of good, silly ideas by lingering on them too much, and trying to tie it all together at the end in some coherent theme. It felt like the producers overrode the creatives' control over the project because the producers have been doing it longer and 'know what sells'. So many movies are ruined by creatively bankrupt executives desperately trying to make themselves relevant and killing a project as a result.

It was hardly the best film of the year, and it didn't reach the potential it might have if corporate interests hadn't stomped on the imaginative ideas at the heart of the story. However, it was financially successful and won Best Picture, so maybe the next time they have a big-budget Asian movie it will be more like a Stephen Chow film and less like a formulaic money-maker aimed at the lucrative Chinese market, a la Shang-Chi. It's a good thing the movie was made, even if it wasn't that great in the end.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Good observation. My wife and I both wondered if the movie would have been as successful if it hadn't been an all Asian cast. And that's not disparaging: I get why people would be excited about that, it's just that that in itself doesn't make it a good movie.

[–] Pandemanium@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

I agree. Beef had an Asian cast, and I thought it was way more entertaining and emotionally provocative than EEAAO.

[–] DaGeek247@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

It's funny, i had the opposite idea. The beginning / middle was very mid, but the ending managed to pull the movie from a c+ to an a-. The emotional climax that tied it all together was the only thing keeping the movie going.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Am I strange for never having ever heard of it until just a few days ago?

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yes! We don't have a cable, just some streaming services, but it seemed like the only movie being talked about for a while.

Edit: and it won Best Picture!

[–] SFDope@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Not strange at all. I feel like we are always getting pushed to liking things that are overhyped. The movie did trigger my emotions so for me it was amazing; that's the beauty of films what you might like I won't and it's ok.

[–] thirteene@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I've actually gotten a lot of flack from friends for disliking this movie. The plot is heavy handed, the symbolism is shoved down your throat "everything bagel is everything", changing languages mid sentence makes conversations hard to follow, and I personally did not identify with the cultural background.

Infinite universe removes stakes and motivation, there was no explanation for how or why we had these experiences. To drive the story, we had characters talking drastic action that made no sense, and had skills they couldn't possibly develop. The writers waived the ability to "show instead of tell" by using subversion of reality to keep the boring story engaging. Without rules and boundaries the subjection of reality served no purpose.

I eventually looked up what some of the characters represented because it won 7 Oscars, but it turns out that there was no deeper message than the delivered one and overstated political agedas that were forced in as well. Overall EEAAO was visually stunning but presented nothing of value.

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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Same. I generally like sci-fi stuff and like weird, reality bending stuff, but I just found the movie OK. Not bad, I still liked it, but not on whatever level it was getting placed on by pop culture. I understood everything happening in the movie, I wasn’t lost ever. I’m assuming this was being done by the Hollywood hype machine, desperate for a hit. I feel like this happens every other year or so where I’ll notice a movie comes out that everyone is talking about. Alot of times the movie comes out late in the year, but then almost instantly gets a big award, which will then get added to the trailers. It’s like, waitaminute, was there really nothing else good that came out this year or is this movie actually that good? I suspect there’s some sort of Hollywood pay-to-play system at work where studios buy out spots or something on movies they’re trying to hype up.

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[–] skybreaker@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

What movie from last year did you think deserved to be "best picture"?

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