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[–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And then there's Zangendeutsch, where germans replace every single loanword with a calque. It doesn't matter how much sense it makes, all that matters is that it's technically correct.

[–] Gogenon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You borrowed the wrong word for killer whale. In Swedish its "lard stabber" and that is a infinitely better name.

[–] IndefiniteBen@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Post about linguistics, but they used i.e. when they meant e.g.

[–] Erika2rsis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Anyone looking to remember the difference: "id est" (that is) vs "exemplī grātiā" (for the sake of an example). You use the first to clarify meaning, and the second to begin a non-exhaustive list of examples.

What matters is ultimately if you can convey your ideas, so using the wrong term is fine when people can still figure out what you meant. But it's still a good idea to learn the difference, because there will be times when mixing up "i.e." and "e.g." will create ambiguity or misunderstanding.

The best idea is maybe to use "for example" or "that is to say". The former could be abbreviated to "f.ex." like in Norwegian, and the latter could be abbreviated "t.i.t.s."

...Alright, on second thought maybe don't abbreviate that one.

In any case, the Wikipedia Manual of Style recommends avoiding use of "e.g." and "i.e." in regular running text altogether, saying that these abbreviations are better fit for parentheticals, quotations, citations, tables, and lists. This is because there is no word or character limit on Wikipedia, nor is there on Tumblr, and so the language is more clear when abbreviations are avoided. Even when someone is using "i.e." and "e.g." in the prescribed way, that doesn't guarantee that the reader knows the distinction.

[–] Hexarei@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I remember "eg" as "example given" and "ie" as "in explanation". Nice mnemonic ways imho

[–] AEsheron@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I remember it as eg-zample.

[–] Squids@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Does guillotine count as a loanword when it's actually named after someone? That's like saying pasteurise is a loanword because Louis Pasteur was French, even though the word is clearly just his name

[–] SolarNialamide@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Fun fact about the guillotine, it's not named after the person who 'invented' it (there were other iterations outside of France). Or well, it was briefly, it was called the louisette after Antoine Louis, but the guy named Guillotin was just the person who proposed using it as a more humane way to carry out the death penalty instead of the more brutal breaking wheel at the very beginning of the French Revolution.

[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

curated tumblr is the best sub on reddit and lemmy

[–] Toldry@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

curated lemmy is the best blog in tumblr

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

It will be a memorable day when I see on Lemmy a screenshot of a Twitter, Tumblr or Reddit post screenshotting Lemmy.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Did anyone notice the funny that you could literally only guess at?"

Odd way to write.

[–] Turun@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Well, it is obvious that calque is not a calque. But I did not care to notice that until it was pointed out explicitly.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"...I did not care to notice..."

[–] Turun@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

English is my second language. How should it be written instead?

[–] Pizza@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think it was wrong. In fact, it's such a good phrase that I'm going to incorporate it into my vocabulary

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Hey Japan? Yeah we already have three discreet words for "savory," "meaty," and "delicious" - you can have your ambiguous catch-all back.

[–] Classy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure but having a singular catchall for the phenomena around that taste is actually better and I would argue more discrete (wait wtf is it discrete or discreet?). Imagine if we had to describe the fundamental tastes like this:

  • Salty
  • Sweet
  • Sour
  • Bitter
  • Savory, meaty and delicious
[–] rooster_butt@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

discrete

That's the correct one for your usage of it.

[–] drislands@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Which one is that? Umami?