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fwiw i find the saying "there is no bad weather, only bad clothing" (it rhymes in swedish) much better than "you aren't made of sugar". It's less demeaning and actually tells you how to make weather bearable.
This is very true in areas where it tends to be cold. But there are parts of the world that have easily hit the orange and red areas of the human heat tolerance chart:
Basically, as humidity goes up, humans lose the ability to cool off via sweating. This is especially true when shade isn’t an option, and when physically exerting yourself, (like when riding a bike in the middle of the street). In the more extreme cases (like in the red), it becomes dangerous to be outside at all. In these areas, air conditioning is usually required by law, and public services will begin opening cooling shelters inside of public buildings for those without AC (like the homeless).
Then that -35°C hits and all that goes out the window.
I grew up there and damn it was cold sometimes.
Now where I live, the coldest weeks are like -4/-8°C tops, with a little bit of icy rain. So easy to dress for 😋. Summer goes all the way up to 40°C though, that's harder to accommodate for.
Cheers.
I rode my bike through the rain so often. You learn to dress for it.
They all get into a million accidents in my city when it rains
It reminds me of a Bob's Burgers episode where they decide to start going for family walks, and they flash cut to walks they took in the past where they are walking in the fall and the kids are complaining "It's too cold for a walk!", and then in the summer and the kids complain "It's too hot for a walk!" and then again in the spring where they complain "It's a beautiful day and we're just wasting it walking around!"
I relate to this a little more than I care to admit lol.
I think the heat is a vaild excuse unless you are walking/biking to a place with showers.
Electrifying my bicycle made a 30 min bike ride a lot less sweaty but in 90°F weather, I'm going to be stinky no matter what I do outside.
Did you watch the video?
The point is that the infrastructure is a WAY more important factor than weather, but weather is cited as a major factor for sticking with car infrastructure.
Ok yeah I get the point but like...I've literally went places on my bike and got sweaty and stinky because it was too hot.
It's the reason I decided to spend a decent chunk of change on an electrification kit for my bike, along with some tools needed to install the kit. Now 30 min bike ride is a lot easier to do with a torque sensing motor and with exceptions of ice, extreme heat, and mud (no disks brakes) I'll bike instead of drive.
But still, the weather is a concern because physics still exist
I think ebikes are the future and use one regularly myself.
But even then, I rarely go outside the bike lane network because riding around cars fucking sucks.
It's not just about cycling or walking. In an ideal city, you can just walk to a tram, metro or bus and then enjoy a air conditioned journey. The point of the video is to highlight how the common excuses of "the weather" or "city too big" are not valid reasons to just keep building roads and dismiss public transport, walkable spaces or cycling paths. Any city will benefit from good people-first design, regardless if it's cold or hot, dry or wet, big or small.
This is true.
Public transit is 1000x more useful it serves people of all physical ability and age is 1000x safer and actually gets used by a substantial majority where its useful in design and capacity
It's very important, but being able to make a journey end to end without it is just as important. Good cycling and walking routes can be used by mobility scooters too and while it may never be 100% accessible for everyone, it will be for the large majority, which makes it critical infrastructure.
The issue is kinda with people thinking they will always gonna be riding in the middle of the day but in reality their commute mostly happened in 8am and then back home at 5:30pm something, which kinda defeat the excuse of "it's hot".
Yes, it's hot between 11am to 4pm, but i think currently people just couldn't take anything that isn't a 26°c and below office or home or mall or car environment, which kinda makes outside even hotter because of all the AC and car. It's really a vicious cycle.
I go for walks/runs after dark due to scheduling but I take 2 months off during the summer because 90+ degrees is too hot for serious exercise.
Do you live somewhere where it gets hot? Because at least here in the summer the heat peaks at like 5 pm. And won't start cooling down until 8ish.
I live on the equator and tropical region, so the heat peak around 12pm to 3pm where the sun is directly above, around 32-33°c, 70% humidity, 85-90% on a really bad day. We don't have summer, we only have monsoon which is the legit reason to not bike, because when it rain it rain hard.
School kid still ride their bike to school, and motorcycle is the most popular transport, with around the same amount of car and motorcycle on the road.
it’s hot even past sunset in the us
Urban heat trap i presume?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_heat_island
It happened here as well, it's not unique to US.
Also do you not shower when get home
honestly going home would be fine, long as it was under heat stroke temps more an issue going to work in an office
infrastructure is the real breaker, so many dead bikers
Yes, infra is basically the deciding factor for biking, and public transport hostility against bicycle is also one. Imagine you use your bicycle as a the last mile for both destination but the train company says you can't bring your bike.
i mean you can just wipe yourself down with a wet towel or some wet wipes, yeah it's not supremely convenient but it really shouldn't be any sort of a dealbreaker.
This is a ridiculous statement that somehow you don't realize is ridiculous
I would need a whole different city. Most days here if I spend 30 minutes outside in the shade I am a sweaty mess.
There are some employers where I could shower on premise, but not most. And most of the places I've lived a bike ride would be 1-6 hours. I think I lived half and hours bike ride from work maybe 1 year of the past 10.
fuck no
i support alternate means of transportation and would love if our cities were designed for walking but i’m not biking to work for 30+ min in 101 degree 70%+ humidity weather
Here in Phoenix/the Valley very few people would bike when it's 110°+ in the summer. But it doesn't matter because we have snowbirds and there's less traffic in the summer so it's okay to take a lane away from cars on every road for bike infrastructure.
Yeah, it's not tropical year-round like the Netherlands or Denmark.
I'm in Montréal and I bike a lot. It's a really bike friendly city, but the fact is biking during winter is not for everyone and not always possible. I do agree with the general idea of the post tho, especially if you're thinking of US cities. But hey, I'm officially considered a terrorist there so no chance I'm ever setting foot in this stupid country ever.
The average us commuter drives 30 minutes or rodes transit an hour one way half travel longer.
Few people are likely to want to commute the distance people actually commute in the US in best conditions and people live so far out largely because its what they can afford to do.
Add in poor conditions and even nearlyall the minority with short commutes is out because they don't want to be sweaty and gross or uncomfortable all day at work.
Bikes are a garbage solution to commuting. Public transit and more affordable housing where people work is the actual solution.
Funny thing is, with more people using bikes and public transport, there would be less cars to slow down traffic and more free parking spots in general.
Is cycling the right solution for everybody? No. Neither is the car, but here we are.
Public transit and more affordable housing where people work is the actual solution.
... Therefore making bikes an excellent consequential solution to commuting. No one with a lick of sense is recommending that the only change required is that people switch to biking instead of driving.